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y***l
发帖数: 1371
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那几个能真正讲道理的共和们好像还是捐了。但是其它那些上窜下跳,除了刷屏,骂人
,攻击同性恋,其他什么都搞不清楚的家伙,肯定是没捐。不过我觉得那些人也不能投
票,所以他们理直气壮的说,我不能投票为什么要捐款啊?
其实按照那帮家伙的发帖时间,有那发帖的功夫随便干点什么工作赚的钱都超过100了
。现在好了,这帮人应该开始心痛自己要交的税了。
还有那些对fiscal cliff兴高采烈的共和们也很奇怪,fiscal cliff一旦实施,那可是
平均每个家庭加税3500,中产要到12000的恐怖前景,不知道他们有什么可高兴的。
y***l
发帖数: 1371
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来自主题: USANews版 - 花街大佬非常恼怒
这个不能怪那些大佬,说实在的,股市能挺到现在已经不错了,fiscal cliff谁都害怕
。花街要怪也是怪怎么民主党没能把国会也拿下来,弄得这个fiscal cliff谈判又要艰
苦无比。
m***y
发帖数: 14763
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现在这个状况,可以说民主党惨败。别的蛋都不提了,就fiscal cliff这个蛋捏在R手
里,就够惨了。毕竟捏重了,整个世界都退回recession,R也担当不起。但现在,把R
的基众给逼怒了,R就敢豁出去捏了。反正白宫输给大老黑了,历史的罪责就他扛了。
说到底,美国从世界独霸的位置上衰下来,受影响最小的是Amish,人家反正连电都不
用,照样点蜡烛。红脖受影响也不大,该打猎就打猎,该钓鱼就钓鱼,本来就没玩过
xbox和sps,从globalization里受的那点微薄之利,没有了也感觉不到。在另一头的极
端,我们所知道的这个文明,就崩溃了。你们不要老骂红脖,动不动就想跑回中国.老
汉当过知青下过乡,中国农村人心的败坏,比中西部民风差的不是一点两点。
前方fiscal cliff,大家请系好安全带,摔出去的,没人来给你收尸。
d*****s
发帖数: 5610
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来自主题: USANews版 - 其实Krugman说的挺对的。
选举一结束,我立刻就想到这个fiscal cliff,根本不需要和GOP谈多少。
Obama已经赢了,不需要再竞选。其他国会议员要竞选。Obama has nothing to lose。
如果fiscal cliff发生会如何,会减少spending,增税,真是perfect,军费开支也下
来了,税也涨了,都可以怪到GOP身上,也不需要对自己base做说明就降低spending,
也没有赤字了,对Obama都是好事。
如果和GOP谈判达不到目标,真是p的好处都没有。
经济即使不好,其实最好立刻陷入recession,这样2年后才中期选举,到时候经济就会
反弹了,民主党照样拿选票,真是perfect。
要我是Obama,绝对不会妥协,所有好牌都在自己手上。
M*****n
发帖数: 16729
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来自主题: USANews版 - 美国的财政悬崖
naive,
when there is a cliff, the stock market will crash, wall street can suck
some blood out of everyone,
and postponing the solution can create another cliff. And so forth.
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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来自主题: USANews版 - Twinkicide: Death By Liberalism
by Jeffrey Lord
Twinkicide.
Death by Liberalism.
This time it's Twinkies.
In October it was Newsweek.
Who's next? What does this lemming-like liberal instinct mean for America?
What is it that bakers and editors had in common as they looked into the
abyss that would spell their own professional death? And then jumped?
Answer: They'd rather be dead than Not Liberal. Unfortunately for the rest
of us -- they are not alone. Worse, they are in charge.
Presented with multiple opportunities to survive ... 阅读全帖
C*******r
发帖数: 63
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来自主题: USANews版 - 先说财政悬崖这个眼前小事
都是数字游戏。 人为的。 Cliff 就Cliff, 谁怕谁呀。让它来。 富人多付点税不就是
少旅游一次吗? 政府少点开支不也就是军费吗? 都不是问题。 老百姓该乍过还乍过
l******g
发帖数: 6771
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/12/02/obama-tim-geit
10:04AM EST December 2. 2012 - Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner echoed
President Obama on Sunday, saying there won't be a fiscal cliff deal with
Republicans without higher taxes on the wealthy.
"There's not going to be an agreement without rates going up," Geithner said
on CNN's State of the Union, one of a series of talk show appearances he
made on Sunday.
Geithner noted that Obama is offering the debt reduction deal he campaign... 阅读全帖
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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December 6, 2012 Posted by Doug Johnson
From The Sacramento Bee:
Thanks to passage of Proposition 30 last month, high-income Californians
would pay the nation’s highest marginal income tax rates — nearly 52
percent — if President Barack Obama and Congress fail to make a deal to
avoid the so-called “fiscal cliff,” according to a new study.
Without a fiscal cliff deal to the contrary, the Bush era tax cuts on
high-income taxpayers would expire next year and rates would return to their
pr... 阅读全帖
s********i
发帖数: 17328
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这与奥巴是否忽悠没啥关系了,作为吃福利的你是愿意投一个给你画大饼的,还是愿意
投大饼都不给你画的?
不见棺材不掉泪。spending cut导致的失业大军,你认为他们会投支持spending cut的
GOP?原来的穷人会因为拿不到DEM许诺的福利而转投还要继续进行包括福利在内
spending cut的GOP? 当那所谓的47%变成50%或者更高,你认为对GOP利好?
我上面讲过,go over the cliff,GOP绝对的大输家。现在的政策就是想办法牺牲中产
阶级的利益止损。随后的结果肯定是1。象征性的做些spending cut。2。富人的税提高
一些。3。中产的实际交税提高-包括dividend,mortgage deduction等,尽管25万的名
义税率可能不变。
如果GOP go over the cliff,就说明GOP破釜沉舟,越赌越大,最后2014年把house也
输掉。
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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by Jammie
If he was so interested in avoiding the fiscal cliff, why did he fly on our
dime to Hawaii last Friday only to turn around and jet back to Washington
now for some photo ops?
President Barack Obama is cutting short his Hawaiian holiday to leave
for Washington on Wednesday to address the unfinished “fiscal cliff”
negotiations with Congress, the White House said on Tuesday.
As the clock ticks toward a January 1 deadline, efforts to avert a sharp
rise in taxes and deep spending cut... 阅读全帖
j*********r
发帖数: 24733
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这下盖不住了,尼玛这对女同居然把领养的孩子饿得一整个星期去找邻居要吃的
SUV carrying family accelerated off California cliff, officials say
The California Highway Patrol on Sunday said evidence suggests that the SUV
carrying the family that drove off the side of the Pacific Coast Highway was
at one point stopped and then accelerated off the side of the road.
The new revelations raise new questions on whether the incident was
deliberate.
Greg Baarts, the acting assistant chief of the patrol’s northern division,
told KGW8 that based... 阅读全帖
x*****7
发帖数: 7326
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来自主题: WorldNews版 - 美国学生的优势 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: xiaxie7 (xiaxie), 信区: Military
标 题: 美国学生的优势
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 17 00:35:52 2010, 美东)
他们虽然在数学方面的训练比中国学生少很多,但他们的英语老师对英语阅读的要求比
较高。
从初中开始,他们就必须阅读大量古典和现代的英语名著,然后英语老师会出题考他们
:一是写故事梗
概,二是回答一些很细节的问题。虽然Cliff's Notes之类的书籍可以帮助他们在很短
时间内完成这
样的任务,但英语老师一般会给使用Cliff's Notes答案的学生很低的分数。所以,总
体来说,大部
分学生是真正地阅读了世界名著。
相比之下,普通中国学生很少阅读世界名著,在阅读方面比美国学生差远了。
W*******n
发帖数: 4140
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来自主题: WorldNews版 - Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
10/22/2012
By Limin Wang
In the evening of October 16, 2012, at the Smack Complex of Hofstra
University on Long Island, New York, President Obama and former governor
Romney had the second finger-to-finger presidential debate. Candy Growly
tried her hardest to moderate them.
Outside the debate building, large swarms of people had decided on their own
to join the show. Some said that they wanted to bring their own tough
questions. Some said that they wanted ... 阅读全帖
W*******n
发帖数: 4140
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来自主题: WorldNews版 - Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
10/22/2012
By Limin Wang
In the evening of October 16, 2012, at the Smack Complex of Hofstra
University on Long Island, New York, President Obama and former governor
Romney had the second finger-to-finger presidential debate. Candy Growly
tried her hardest to moderate them.
Outside the debate building, large swarms of people had decided on their own
to join the show. Some said that they wanted to bring their own tough
questions. Some said that they wanted ... 阅读全帖
l***n
发帖数: 116
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it also depends on the situation.
If the car is going to have a head on collision or just fall off a cliff,
maneuver will be a better choice.
Even a roll over is better than head on collision or falling of a cliff.
k*****a
发帖数: 7389
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but the road could be in any position, like perpendicular to the cliff or
parrell to the cliff, still not clear.....
j**u
发帖数: 6059
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来自主题: Faculty版 - K99
你说的这个情况有个名词叫K cliff,有些人在导师的指导下可以做很不错的工作,拿了
k以后逐渐开始自己独立的工作,或者是独立工作能力不行,或者是当初选择的课题听起
来好但是做起来太难,结果文章不足,发展很不好。
说来巧了,今天中午就要去听一个seminar,how to avoid the K cliff.

人,
a***s
发帖数: 5417
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来自主题: Investment版 - 这市场崩盘只是时间问题
还是kafen最牛,他说已经改变了以前要fall from cliff的market view,
(当然他改变的时候,market已经经历过两次fall from cliff了,第一次
到1120, 第二次到1074. )
然后他说感觉market grinding higher, but not too much higher than
recent high. 到至今为止还非常正确。
kafen的市场感觉真牛。不知道他现在有没有新的感觉。

than
k***n
发帖数: 3158
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来自主题: Investment版 - 大家401k的仓位现在是多少?
when being all in, many people can not hold tight during steep corrections
just check some previous posts on the board, quite some asking whether
they should move money to cash and it mostly happen around the bottoms
of deep corrections.
fiscal cliff is a joke, but I am still looking forward to a stock market
cliff in the next two years during which many people's nerves will be
challenged if they stay all in all the time.
w***n
发帖数: 1519
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来自主题: Investment版 - 为什么raise debt ceiting会成为新闻?
DEMs are irresponsible, whereas GOPs didn't hold on to the principles that
make people elect them. This fiscal cliff thing was supposed to be an
opportunity to do some serious spending cuts. GOPs just gave in too easily.
If I were them, I'd rather go over the cliff and take the blame for not
compromising.
w***g
发帖数: 5958
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比如你呆了一年,就有1/3归你了。一般有一年的cliff,cliff之内跳了就啥也拿不到。
没有vest那部分就没有了。你要再回去,就得重新negotiate package。一般startup
的股票都是按时间涨的,两年要是还没完蛋,股票应该涨了很多。你要想把原来
那部分negotiate回来会比较困难。
d*******d
发帖数: 103
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转载好文
本人觉得灰常灰常好,veli veli good:)
全面具体实用。作者年轻有为,很厉害!
唉,这样的文章怎么没在新闻媒体广泛传播:(
http://www.cocoachina.com/gamedev/misc/2013/0520/6234.html
魏小亮:如何选择硅谷的IT公司
如何选择硅谷的IT公司?Facebook 移动技术总监、Facebook“新兵营”的领队之一、
负责新员工培训的魏小亮(作者简介请见文章末尾)从四个方面写了四篇博文,给出了
他的详细建议。在获得作者许可后,伯乐在线把四篇博文合成一篇发布,以下是全文。
经过激烈的面试,恭喜你拿到一个硅谷IT公司的Offer了,更可喜的是,有几个公司同
时给你Offer。下一个头疼的事情:如何选择一个最适合自己的公司。
这两年跟不少拿到多个硅谷公司Offer的国内朋友打过电话聊天,觉得不少朋友的决定
因素比较随机——往往几个公司都没有具体了解,觉得差不多也都挺好的,大多数朋友
去工资最高的地方;也有一些去了HR比较主动的公司。最后到了那个公司发现并不是最
适合自己的…… 所以,我想在这里谈谈怎样选择公司。
最关键的... 阅读全帖
A*******i
发帖数: 49
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公司是个刚刚成立半年的startup,做的是农业信息分析方面的业务,小弟的拿到的
position是web方面的frontend-developer,但是听面试的人那意思好像也得搞些
backend。不过最后给我的title是software engineer..
offer信息如下
base 9w
Stock options: 20,000 with a 4 year vesting schedule, subject to a one
year cliff.
股票的地方我有些看不懂,这意思是2w股票分4年给,然后subject to a one year
cliff 这个是啥意思? 还是说我想太多了一个成立半年的startup股票直接无视就好了.
...= =b
还有就是他们说会sponsor 明年的H1b,大公司肯定是可以信赖的,小公司就是不太清
楚这种话靠谱不靠谱啊..
还有就是总听大家说神马口头offer,我这个offer就是个email,给我说了下情况,然
后问我start date啥时候好给我发official offer,是不是后面给我发的这个offer
letter才... 阅读全帖
j********3
发帖数: 560
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来自主题: Living版 - 请教:Roomba 500 series error 6
troubleshooting 说是要 inspect and clean cliff sensors。看 cliff sensor 的窗
口都挺干净,但还是用布擦了擦,可是问题依然存在。在网上搜了搜也没有找到什么解
决办法。联系客服,客服说需要更换,但是因为已经出了保修期,所以要200块钱给一
个 replacement core,就是没有电池,充电器和附件的其它部分。请问一下还有没有
什么其它的解决办法?谢谢。
y********g
发帖数: 598
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来自主题: PennySaver版 - Kids Eat Free
Healthy Junk Food List
* Barbara's Granola Bars, Cinnamon Raisin, Oats and Honey, Carob Chip &
Peanut Butter
* Barbara's Multigrain Cherry, Strawberry & Apple Cinnamon Cereal Bars
* Barbara's Snackimals, Oatmeal, Carob Chip, & Vanilla
* Basil's Animal Crackers
* Blue Diamond Plain Almond
* Blue Diamond Smokehouse Almonds
* Bodhi Jungle Nut Crunch Bar
* Cal-Tropic Ameri-Mix Fruit & Nut Snack Mix
* Cal-Tropic Totally California Trail Mix
* Cliff Bars - Choco... 阅读全帖
e********3
发帖数: 18578
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来自主题: Returnee版 - 原来上海的健身管会员费这么高
24 hours可是在LA和NYC遍地都是,我们这里还没有,美国的大城市很多东西反而更便宜和方
便,除了房价以外。
而且,你不就是纽约哥伦比亚大学医学院的吗,我查了一下,你附近Zip的Bally's的价格也就25美元一个月,0 enrollment fee. 只能说你的美国同事脑袋被门板夹过了,当然要是公家报销就另说了。
Selected Club
* Englewood Cliffs
* 150 Sylvan Ave
* Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632
* (201)871-9600
EDIT
Step 2
Select your membership
Select the plan that's right for you. If you decide to purchase a membership
now, you will have 3 - 5 days to change your mind (depending on the state).
Membership Type Price
WEB S... 阅读全帖
a**u
发帖数: 214
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来自主题: Returnee版 - 程序员是否应该海归
谁去头条了?我也说一说:
1.中国公司股票风险也挺大。阿里系(包括蚂蚁)的vesting cliff都是两年。两年之
内走人没有股票。这其实和这边马上要IPO的公司风险谁大谁小还真不好说--比如Uber
之流两年套现绝对是大概率。
2.包裹对于L6+以上还真不好说。蚂蚁的股票是按自己估值给的,比外面传说的高一倍
(当然这个也可能合理,但是透明度的确不如美国)。头条的vest schedule 也是和
snap/amazon差不多,头两年很少。比一比F/G现在每年25%,而且没有一年cliff,国内
公司的包裹从钱上来说,并没有大的竞争力。
3. 我认为回国主要是要看国内的优势你能利用多少。比如你非常想管人,一辈子没管
过死不瞑目,但是美国这边没有任何机会,的确应该回去圆梦。类似其他不圆梦不死心
的理由都可以成立。
4. 上面主要是ego,很多人为了家庭牺牲ego,有人为了ego牺牲家庭。这也是个性问题。
w********n
发帖数: 137
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来自主题: StartUp版 - Vesting schedule of Startup
最近要签一个 restricted stock 的文件
我 prefer One year cliff with remaining 75% vested monthly (in 36 monthes)
老板 prefer
One year cliff with remaining 75% vested quartly (in 12 quarts)
老板理由是每个月 vesting 的话会有太多的 accounting burden
我当然觉的 monthly 更有利,不然的如果 在一个quart前
离开公司(主动或者被动)就白白损失两个月的 stock。
大家以为如何?
l**********y
发帖数: 2050
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来自主题: Stock版 - 2012年2月份ER名单
2月9日
CCE Coca-Cola Enterprises Inc
Q4 2011 Coca-Cola Enterprises Inc Earnings Release
$ 0.36 n/a $ 0.28 9-Feb BMO
EXPE Expedia Inc
Q4 2011 Expedia Inc Earnings Release
$ 0.61 n/a $ 0.32 9-Feb 4:00 PM
IFF International Flavors & Fragrances Inc
Q4 2011 International Flavors & Fragrances Inc Earnings Release
$ 0.71 n/a $ 0.69 9-Feb
LO Lorillard Inc
Q4 2011 Lorillard Inc Earnings Release
$ 1.... 阅读全帖
G***o
发帖数: 5158
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http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/03/news/economy/imf-recovery/index
到底什么意思?是要劝进?
Boost the U.S. economy now and worry about cutting deficits later, the
International Monetary Fund recommended Tuesday.
The U.S. recovery remains "tepid" and according to the IMF, is expected to
grow only 2% this year. Meanwhile, the fiscal cliff looms in 2013,
threatening to reduce the economy's growth to only 1% next year.
Meanwhile, the IMF predicts the job market will improve only at a snail's
pace. It expects the u... 阅读全帖
c*****r
发帖数: 8227
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这么多不利因素合力作用,Fed恐怕也是无力回天了。。。
By David Rosenberg
1. The Philly Fed index: The Philly Fed index came in at -12.9 in July
and in the past three months has averaged -11.8. Rosenberg writes that an -
11.8 average over three months has "coincided with the U.S. economy tipping
over into recession seven of the eight times that such a negative reading
has occurred over such a time frame."
2. Retail sales: Retail sales crumbled in June falling 0.5 percent,
declining three months in a row. Looking b... 阅读全帖
s**********o
发帖数: 14359
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来自主题: Stock版 - 大湿展望十一月份
现眼,人共和党花几十亿竞选,是闹着玩的?
魔门不行,他根红苗正的JOHN MCCAIN就行吗?
再说没大选就没FISCAL CLIFF啦?谁上台不是FISCAL CLIFF
11月要跌下去,你那原油就跌得没影
欧洲完了,中国嗝了,美国要再跌,
谁还要你的原油。
g*******l
发帖数: 73
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来自主题: Stock版 - 今天为啥大跌
The CBO, a conservative estimator, has already said it expects a recession
if the US goes over the fiscal cliff. A National Association of
Manufacturers report also predicts that 6 million jobs would be lost through
2014 if the US actually goes over the fiscal cliff. It estimates that
unemployment would skyrocket to 12%.
a********t
发帖数: 4508
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因为Fiscal Cliff,税率,等等。。。
我说你这么个从来不炒股的人都有这般见地了,看来市场是完了啊。
连街边卖菜的老太太都知道Fiscal Cliff 的时候,我想是应该做的什么的时候了。
于是我今天就真的做了点什么。
拭目以待。
l*****7
发帖数: 2844
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请问您得看盘能不能把那些非常意外但是很重要的因素
象地震,战争,已经如今的fiscal cliff,debt ceiling, european woe 三重奏看出来
同时加进去考虑,当您判断大盘走势的时候
我非常尊重您的经验,只是好奇,只是看历史数据,过去的大盘得出的结论
如何把突发却极度重要的新闻考虑进去
我是新人,作为炒股。非常greeen
但是在美国呆了很久了,一直看美国的政治经济,算是了解共和党的conservative的
mentle set,习惯,价值观念,我都能看出只要fiscal cliff不解决,大盘就是象带了
手刹开车,只会跌,或者猪,但是不会涨,所以放心的买3倍bear ETF
每次早上开盘的涨,都是我补仓faz,tza,sds的时候。
我在obama当选的星期二,卖了所有的JPM
但是还是亏了些在AIG上,不过很快在33割肉了
暴风雨来临的感觉非常强烈啊
l*****7
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no 美国经济没什么大问题
股票不涨就是因为fiscal cliff带来的uncertainty
这是short的好机会啊
只要fiscal cliff show promise
立即all in
a***s
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来自主题: Stock版 - today's down and up
Someone expressed pessimistic feeling on fiscal cliff. Market dropped 1%.
Someone else expressed optimistic feeling on fiscal cliff deal. Market
rallied 1.4%.
m*****i
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If you have a restaurant, would you sell the restaurant because of the
fiscal cliff?
If fiscal cliff does happen, Wealth people have more to loss then the poor
people.
w****k
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今天Fedex的earning report预期不受“Fiscal Cliff”的影响,CEO认为两党会及时达
成deal。
但是仍然要cut cost裁员,也就是说,有没有“Fiscal Cliff”,fedex都不行了。
a********t
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来自主题: Stock版 - 又满仓了,期待节日行情。
目前大盘这个价位,你说高吧也不是很高,你说低吧也不是很低。但如果放眼望出去3-
6个月,上升的空间还是有的。
这个Holiday Season,我个人觉得,有可能是4年以来最好的holiday season。个人消
费很可能有大幅的提高,油价的下跌、Hurricane后的重建都对消费有好处。
众所周知的不确定因素是Fiscal Cliff 和 Debt Ceiling。 收入税的上升,不管是25
万还是100万的问题,都对经济影响不大。关键的问题在government spending方面。
Spending cut多点少点,目前看来共和党说了不算。民主党做些妥协,但总趋势不会大
变。
不过话说回来,government spending增加还是减少对就业和股市是利好与否,也不好
说。所以说,如果作为中长线投资的话,目前的关于Fiscal Cliff的众多表演,可以忽
略。
还有一张野蛮的牌就是中国。美国加快QE,日本开始刺激,中国怎么办,坐等么?一号
文件呼之欲出。基于目前中国经济的困境以及新领导的偏好,一号文件对一年的工作定
性很可能是关于城乡基础设施、或制造业产业升级、或金融领域... 阅读全帖
i*********n
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来自主题: Stock版 - FUTURE不用怕

你这话根本没意义。
明天更多的是option play,和cliff 屁关系都没有
早就说过了,cliff 就是jb炒冷饭
s******s
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来自主题: Stock版 - 再不捞,我不能原谅你
大市不可预测? 看看这个:
我看这个就不敢捞了.
The gloom of the period coming up to the 2011 debt crisis is clear in the
minds of investors, as is the doom directly thereafter. Even before Standard
and Poor's downgraded the US debt from AAA to AA+ August 5th 2011, the Dow
had shed 1,209.12 points or 9.60% in the period from July 24th to August 3rd
. By the time S&P had downgraded the US debt, the Dow had plummeted 1,782.95
points, or 14.16% over the period from July 24th to August 7th.
跟fiscal cliff的关系:
the prior bar... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Stock版 - 对于世界形势的看法
QE4:
联储局十分不愿看到市场崩溃,所以现在的策略是不断支撑市场向上。而市场也看透联
储局的想法,在QE3和QE4的发布前,都已经不断消化了上涨的幅度,在发布后反而市场
下跌。目前QE4已经使用了联储局的全部工具,以后再有危机,最多只能加大购买幅度
,而对市场的影响有限。而且在QE3后仅仅3个月就发布QE4,很有可能是在预防Fiscal
Cliff带来的冲击。联储局可能已经预计到在协商过程的艰难。
Fiscal Cliff
如果我是O8,我会坚持强硬立场,而且准备谈判失败而跌入悬崖。对于民主党来说,坚
持强硬,如果成功,利益之最大化,如果没有成功,也可以借助当政以及高民意把主要
责任推倒共和党方面,这样在2013年的中期选举,可能拿下众议院,这样同时掌握参众
两院,为后来3年执政取得更好的道路,同样也极可能利益最大化。所以对于O8和民主
党,会继续坚持强硬。
对于共和党来说,大家都是聪明人,民主党的算盘当然他们也知道。但是,如果共和党
妥协,将会彻底失去大股东的支持,即大败;而如果保持强硬,大家一起掉下悬崖,首
先有可能把问题的一部分推倒白宫方面,同时可能增强大股东的支持,所以情况是... 阅读全帖
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There's a common misperception about the fiscal cliff— that the tax
increases only apply to 2013. Not true.
In a cruel epilogue to 2012, roughly 28 million families would owe the IRS $
86 billion more than they anticipated for this year should the country
plunge off the cliff, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.
On the whole, 98 percent of those with incomes between $200,000 to $500,000
would pay an additional $11,000 in AMT this year, according to the center's
estimates. About 88 pe... 阅读全帖
g**c
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obama反正当选了,cliff不cliff对他来讲无所谓,这次整死你共和党丫的
q********g
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来自主题: Stock版 - deal 出来了
White House, Senate reach fiscal-cliff deal
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The White House and Senate Republicans have
reached a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, multiple reports said Monday night
, just hours ahead of a midnight deadline. The deal -- which would need to
be approved by both chambers of Congress -- would reportedly delay across-
the-board spending cuts by two months in addition to raising taxes on
incomes of $450,000 and above. A Senate vote could come late Monday. The
House has adjo... 阅读全帖
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-31/shale-gas-revolution-s
Shale-Gas Revolution Spurs Wave of New U.S. Steel Plants: Energy
By Sonja Elmquist - Dec 31, 2012 5:28 PM ET

Daniel Acker/Bloomberg
Hydraulic fracturing of shale rock formations from Texas to West Virginia
has boosted supplies of gas and sent prices plunging by as much as half in
the past two years. Gas futures reached a decade low of $1.91 per million
British thermal units in April in New York trading.
The U.S. shale-gas revolut... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Stock版 - CLF怎么了
The bloodletting in shares of iron-ore miner Cliffs (CLF) isn't done,
contend Morgan Stanley and Credit Suisse as they slash price targets on the
stock and the former downgrades CLF to underweight. Shares had already
dropped 16% this month, and 44% in 2013, amid selling stock and
significantly cutting its dividend. Credit Suisse, already bearish and which
goes to $10 from $30, says, "Structural changes taking place in CLF's key
Great Lakes market...will compromise its pricing power and erode the... 阅读全帖
y*******w
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来自主题: Stock版 - 下周17号debt还有意义吗?
没有长期的意义,就好像什么fiscal cliff,budget sequestration一样,之前说有多
可怕,结果Cliff轻轻跳过,budget sequestration实施了也没有什么坏影响。所谓的
debt limit就算reach了也没什么大不了的。
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