r*****a
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w********2
发帖数: 6204 | 2 长！没读完
小熊是坚决不咔嚓了，反正是男娃，咱不吃亏！
知道说这话在宠版会被拍，不在乎。。。。。 |
w********6
发帖数: 1853 | 3 我Confuse了 早了会有关节问题 晚了又容易有cancer 那到底该早该晚啊
Btw 臭auggie开始喝马桶里的水了。以后要开始关马桶盖了
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 r*****a 的大作中提到】
: http://www.news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=10498
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r*****a
发帖数: 27155 | 4 小麦咔嚓了？
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: 长！没读完
: 小熊是坚决不咔嚓了，反正是男娃，咱不吃亏！
: 知道说这话在宠版会被拍，不在乎。。。。。
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r*****a
发帖数: 27155 | 5 我家的禁止进厕所，就怕去喝马桶里的水，不过她对水很挑剔，也不会去喝
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 我Confuse了 早了会有关节问题 晚了又容易有cancer 那到底该早该晚啊
: Btw 臭auggie开始喝马桶里的水了。以后要开始关马桶盖了
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: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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w********2
发帖数: 6204 | 6 嗯！老太监了
【在 r*****a 的大作中提到】
: 小麦咔嚓了？
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w********6
发帖数: 1853 | 7 这文章贴的 female 早kc 容易有关节问题 晚了有癌症问题 这让我这当娘的怎么办啊
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: 嗯！老太监了
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w********2
发帖数: 6204 | 8 安了吧！当机立断呗，咔不咔嚓你说了算
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 这文章贴的 female 早kc 容易有关节问题 晚了有癌症问题 这让我这当娘的怎么办啊
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: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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w********6
发帖数: 1853 | 9 我决定11-12个月大的时候kc
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: 安了吧！当机立断呗，咔不咔嚓你说了算
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r*****a
发帖数: 27155 | 10 得伺候一次例假？
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 我决定11-12个月大的时候kc
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: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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b*****r
发帖数: 4717 | |
m**e
发帖数: 150 | 12 你们是真没看懂？明明是不卡擦最健康，早晚卡擦都有问题。
The study revealed that, for all five diseases analyzed, the disease rates
were significantly higher in both males and females that were neutered
either early or late compared with intact (non-neutered) dogs.
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 这文章贴的 female 早kc 容易有关节问题 晚了有癌症问题 这让我这当娘的怎么办啊
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: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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r*****a
发帖数: 27155 | 13 好像不是，比如male里面late neuter的HD % 是低于intact的，但是early neuter的高
于intact
【在 m**e 的大作中提到】
: 你们是真没看懂？明明是不卡擦最健康，早晚卡擦都有问题。
: The study revealed that, for all five diseases analyzed, the disease rates
: were significantly higher in both males and females that were neutered
: either early or late compared with intact (non-neutered) dogs.
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m**e
发帖数: 150 | 14 你看错了。这里是论文的原始出处。
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.p
For all five diseases analyzed in the present study, the disease rates in
males and/or females were significantly increased when neutering was
performed early and/or late. When a disease occurred in intact dogs, the
occurrence was typically one-fourth to one-half that of early- and/or late-
neutered dogs. When no intact dogs were diagnosed with a disease, such as
with CCL in both sexes and MCT in females, the occurrence in early- and/or
late-neutered dogs ranged between 4 and 8 percent of the sample.
【在 r*****a 的大作中提到】
: 好像不是，比如male里面late neuter的HD % 是低于intact的，但是early neuter的高
: 于intact
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s****t
发帖数: 17096 | 15 en，欧洲好像早就有研究然后基本上都反对neuter dogs
有些国家还立法限制neuter 动物
这篇文章是给美国人看的
【在 m**e 的大作中提到】
: 你看错了。这里是论文的原始出处。
: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.p
: For all five diseases analyzed in the present study, the disease rates in
: males and/or females were significantly increased when neutering was
: performed early and/or late. When a disease occurred in intact dogs, the
: occurrence was typically one-fourth to one-half that of early- and/or late-
: neutered dogs. When no intact dogs were diagnosed with a disease, such as
: with CCL in both sexes and MCT in females, the occurrence in early- and/or
: late-neutered dogs ranged between 4 and 8 percent of the sample.
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r*****a
发帖数: 27155 | 16 嗯？我咋觉得还是你看错了。。。这里说的是 and/or，有的是or而已
比如HD，男金毛，intact是7/138，late neuter是2/65，early neuter是16/156
Perusal of Figure 1 and Table 4 reveals that HD in early-neutered males,
affecting 10.3 percent, was more than double the proportion of intact males
with the disorder, which was 5.1 percent, a significant difference (K-M: p<0
.01). There was also a significant difference between early and late
neutering in males (K-M: p<0.05). The mean ages of HD onset for intact,
early-neutered, and late-neutered male dogs were 4.4, 3.6, and 4.7 years,
respectively. No difference was found between early-neutered dogs with and
without HD when compared with respect to their BCS, (means 6.1 and 5.7,
respectively; CPH: p = 0.22). No other comparisons of HD occurrence were
significant; HD was not increased in occurrence by early or later neutering
in females (Figure 2).
【在 m**e 的大作中提到】
: 你看错了。这里是论文的原始出处。
: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.p
: For all five diseases analyzed in the present study, the disease rates in
: males and/or females were significantly increased when neutering was
: performed early and/or late. When a disease occurred in intact dogs, the
: occurrence was typically one-fourth to one-half that of early- and/or late-
: neutered dogs. When no intact dogs were diagnosed with a disease, such as
: with CCL in both sexes and MCT in females, the occurrence in early- and/or
: late-neutered dogs ranged between 4 and 8 percent of the sample.
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L******u
发帖数: 3412 | 17 只要不去比赛，我是一定会给狗KC的。不论公母
不过绝育的时间早晚一直争议，这个看个人想法吧！ |
m**e
发帖数: 150 | 18 晚卡擦和不卡擦在HD上的差别不具有统计上的意义，但是在其他疾病上有明显差异。从
任何调查的5项疾病来看，不卡擦都是最健康的。
【在 r*****a 的大作中提到】
: 嗯？我咋觉得还是你看错了。。。这里说的是 and/or，有的是or而已
: 比如HD，男金毛，intact是7/138，late neuter是2/65，early neuter是16/156
: Perusal of Figure 1 and Table 4 reveals that HD in early-neutered males,
: affecting 10.3 percent, was more than double the proportion of intact males
: with the disorder, which was 5.1 percent, a significant difference (K-M: p<0
: .01). There was also a significant difference between early and late
: neutering in males (K-M: p<0.05). The mean ages of HD onset for intact,
: early-neutered, and late-neutered male dogs were 4.4, 3.6, and 4.7 years,
: respectively. No difference was found between early-neutered dogs with and
: without HD when compared with respect to their BCS, (means 6.1 and 5.7,
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l*****o
发帖数: 26631 | 19 我的想法是如果狗的品种容易得关节问题的就晚kc， 容易得癌症的就早kc
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 这文章贴的 female 早kc 容易有关节问题 晚了有癌症问题 这让我这当娘的怎么办啊
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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w********6
发帖数: 1853 | 20 所以我家女娃要早kc, 是吧
【在 l*****o 的大作中提到】
: 我的想法是如果狗的品种容易得关节问题的就晚kc， 容易得癌症的就早kc
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m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 21 哪国？
【在 s****t 的大作中提到】
: en，欧洲好像早就有研究然后基本上都反对neuter dogs
: 有些国家还立法限制neuter 动物
: 这篇文章是给美国人看的
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r*****a
发帖数: 27155 | 22 不显著这个是make sense的，我们不能指望晚咔嚓显著降低HD嘛
至少晚咔嚓不是导致5种病的risk全都增加，而且这篇文本来就是在研究咔嚓的缺点，
没有在说优点，所以权衡一下有可能还是咔嚓了好，但是不能过早咔
反正对我来说咔嚓的唯一好处就是避免怀孕，所以我家姑娘这一刀应该是挨定了T_T
【在 m**e 的大作中提到】
: 晚卡擦和不卡擦在HD上的差别不具有统计上的意义，但是在其他疾病上有明显差异。从
: 任何调查的5项疾病来看，不卡擦都是最健康的。
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r*****a
发帖数: 27155 | 23 得，金毛惨了
【在 l*****o 的大作中提到】
: 我的想法是如果狗的品种容易得关节问题的就晚kc， 容易得癌症的就早kc
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