p******e
发帖数: 327 | 1 3. I had $100ish with K10o at Cutoff, 5 to 6 limpers before me, so I decided
to limp too because of position.
Flop QJx rainbow. EP guy bet $15 (He had less than $200 before this hand),
folded to me, I re-popped to $40. I had never reraise with a draw that night
. I thought he would fold because he is pretty tight. Also, I did this
because I'm short stack, so basically I was trying to give him a message
that I would go all in with my left stack. Surprisely, he went all in. I
called and rivered a Ace.
He had AQ. He said that he didn't think I had anything with that $40 reraise
. I don't bluff often and I guess he didn't respect my reraise.
Anyway, I felt that my move was so risky on flop giving my stack size. I
felt my move was pure gambling that moment...
4. I had KK at MP raised to $8. 2 callers including a college looking kid at
BB. He didn't play many hands at all. I felt he was really tight.
Flop had an Ace and two low cards rainbow. He checked, I bet $15, he called.
Turn blank he checked again, and I checked after because I was worried that
he has Ace. River blank, he instantly bet about $30. I folded my KK, he
showed his bluff with nothing. Basically he called flop bet trying to bluff.
When I think back, I felt I played so wrong here. I should bet on turn. If
he calls on turn and bet on river, i can fold. If he reraise on turn, i can
fold. If he calls turn and check river, I can check behind. Is this logical? | h******n
发帖数: 233 | 2 My 2 cents, please correct me if you feel like to:-)
3. since it's HU after flop, it doesn't make sense to go all in for 30% draw
at flop. I would call $15 bet. But I've read in this forum that some player
like to raise with drawing hand to hide hand strenth.
4. I would cbet $30 at turn. But I would check river if villain check. | p******e
发帖数: 327 | 3 3. I don't normally reraise with a drawing hand. I was in a gamble mood with
that hand because I was short stack. Hope ppl can respect my reraise.
I also didn't want to make a hard decision if I didn't hit the turn.
I guess too much gamble factors in this hand.
4. why betting on turn if you believe villain has an Ace? And he's image is
tight.
draw
player
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: My 2 cents, please correct me if you feel like to:-)
: 3. since it's HU after flop, it doesn't make sense to go all in for 30% draw
: at flop. I would call $15 bet. But I've read in this forum that some player
: like to raise with drawing hand to hide hand strenth.
: 4. I would cbet $30 at turn. But I would check river if villain check.
| M********g
发帖数: 717 | 4 3. I guess your image is not as TAG as you think in others' minds.
4. I do not think bet turn is necessarily a better option. But if I checked
the turn, i would've called or even raised the river high % of the time.
decided
night
reraise
【在 p******e 的大作中提到】
: 3. I had $100ish with K10o at Cutoff, 5 to 6 limpers before me, so I decided
: to limp too because of position.
: Flop QJx rainbow. EP guy bet $15 (He had less than $200 before this hand),
: folded to me, I re-popped to $40. I had never reraise with a draw that night
: . I thought he would fold because he is pretty tight. Also, I did this
: because I'm short stack, so basically I was trying to give him a message
: that I would go all in with my left stack. Surprisely, he went all in. I
: called and rivered a Ace.
: He had AQ. He said that he didn't think I had anything with that $40 reraise
: . I don't bluff often and I guess he didn't respect my reraise.
| h******n
发帖数: 233 | 5 MBloomberg, would you please elaborate on your decision on not bet on turn
but call/raise on river in 4?
My reasoning for $30 bet at turn is to represent Ax/two pairs or better. I
am hoping bet at turn could prevend bluff by weaker hands.
checked
【在 M********g 的大作中提到】
: 3. I guess your image is not as TAG as you think in others' minds.
: 4. I do not think bet turn is necessarily a better option. But if I checked
: the turn, i would've called or even raised the river high % of the time.
:
: decided
: night
: reraise
| M********g
发帖数: 717 | 6 Turn bet could let bluffer give up. But what if he raises? Probably you have
to fold there since there is another street and there are few cards you
would like there. A determined bluffer is capable of float flop and cr turn.
Turn check keeps the pot small and our range open. We can call river bet if
we sense it is a bluff or raise if we think it's a thin value bet from weak
ace since he did not raise pf. And fold river is still an option.
Just some incomplete thoughts.
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: MBloomberg, would you please elaborate on your decision on not bet on turn
: but call/raise on river in 4?
: My reasoning for $30 bet at turn is to represent Ax/two pairs or better. I
: am hoping bet at turn could prevend bluff by weaker hands.
:
: checked
| p******e
发帖数: 327 | 7 3. Maybe. But not sure why they think that way.
4. I think KK here is just a bluff catcher hand. If check on turn, why call
river?
Raising on river is more difficult for me to understand?
checked
【在 M********g 的大作中提到】
: 3. I guess your image is not as TAG as you think in others' minds.
: 4. I do not think bet turn is necessarily a better option. But if I checked
: the turn, i would've called or even raised the river high % of the time.
:
: decided
: night
: reraise
| d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 8 hand 3, a tight guy donk-bet in multiway flop means strong, if you do want
him to fold, you need to maximize his Fold Equity (if any), usually I wouldn
't do that (lol)
hand 4, if the kid played really tight, and rarely open/call before that
hand, I am more than happy to give him some credit when he shows some
strength. I wouldn't tangle with such guy by marginal situation. like MM 老
湿 said，不是每个bluff都要去抓的, 我觉得你应该谢谢他showed the bluff，so
that we at least know he is not a NIT. 反过来讲，我们自己绝对不要在没有必要
的情况下亮牌，除非是计划好make a tight image by showing strong hands，or
loosen the table by showing the bluff
当然，如果对手是average player without enough information，我通常在dry board
上huge 1 barrel或者wet board上2 barrel，至少可以逼走weak ace和draw
my2c | p******e
发帖数: 327 | 9 ”当然，如果对手是average player without enough information，我通常在dry
board
上huge 1 barrel或者wet board上2 barrel，至少可以逼走weak ace和draw“
怎么理解dry board huge 1 barrel? bet pot size? if called, slow down?
wouldn
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: hand 3, a tight guy donk-bet in multiway flop means strong, if you do want
: him to fold, you need to maximize his Fold Equity (if any), usually I wouldn
: 't do that (lol)
: hand 4, if the kid played really tight, and rarely open/call before that
: hand, I am more than happy to give him some credit when he shows some
: strength. I wouldn't tangle with such guy by marginal situation. like MM 老
: 湿 said，不是每个bluff都要去抓的, 我觉得你应该谢谢他showed the bluff，so
: that we at least know he is not a NIT. 反过来讲，我们自己绝对不要在没有必要
: 的情况下亮牌，除非是计划好make a tight image by showing strong hands，or
: loosen the table by showing the bluff
| n***a
发帖数: 274 | 10 其实我觉得4这种牌如果不是draw heavy可以check the flop,然后bet或reraise the
turn。 尤其是在有position的情况下。 | p******e
发帖数: 327 | 11 nice play, i like it
【在 n***a 的大作中提到】
: 其实我觉得4这种牌如果不是draw heavy可以check the flop,然后bet或reraise the
: turn。 尤其是在有position的情况下。
| w**********y
发帖数: 1691 | 12 4. 在有position的跟tight的对手HU，我一般这么打，flop bet half pot, turn bet
half pot, river check. fold to any raise.
算semi-bluff.
对手是AT+,set,输flop和turn的bet;
对手A9-,可能会fold at turn.
对手是其它,赢flop和turn的bet.
have
turn.
if
weak
【在 M********g 的大作中提到】
: Turn bet could let bluffer give up. But what if he raises? Probably you have
: to fold there since there is another street and there are few cards you
: would like there. A determined bluffer is capable of float flop and cr turn.
: Turn check keeps the pot small and our range open. We can call river bet if
: we sense it is a bluff or raise if we think it's a thin value bet from weak
: ace since he did not raise pf. And fold river is still an option.
: Just some incomplete thoughts.
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