p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 1 http://www.pokerstars.tv/poker-video-9836-the-big-game-2-week-3-episode-4.html?channel_id=221
Really like how she played the 35o hand on button. She 3 bet preflop
and got cold called by one of the blind. She put the opp on the exact hand
based on how the hand was played and she knew that her opp knew her read.
Checking on the turn made look like pot control, then she made a decent
size bet on the river looking like a value bet, representing a big pair. She
can only do this by knowing her opp is decent player and would be able to
make that laydown. Never do it against a station.
She blew her entire stack a few minutes after though, by 6 betting shove
with J7s against AA. Somewhat misread and a little bit tilting.
Just find out that she is lesbian though, sign. Turned her reputation
from best female player to best lesbian poker player.
| d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 3 nod, so obvious.
she did a good job in school (yale) though, built a roll of $100K from
foxwoods on weekends and another $100K from online.
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 大哥 我看到她第一眼就觉得她是了
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 4 我楞是每看出来，可能 over LAG 的女牌手很多有这种倾向把。。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: nod, so obvious.
: she did a good job in school (yale) though, built a roll of $100K from
: foxwoods on weekends and another $100K from online.
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 5 。。。。。。。。。
你脱离世界太久了吧
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: 我楞是每看出来，可能 over LAG 的女牌手很多有这种倾向把。。
| d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 6
老大，你是说她在yale的时候就赚了20万么，我第一次看到她是high stake poker，一
把牌就把20万给送走了。。。。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: nod, so obvious.
: she did a good job in school (yale) though, built a roll of $100K from
: foxwoods on weekends and another $100K from online.
| s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 8 yes, she had this interview with cardplayer before and talked about how she
got started. a great score for a busy ivy league student who only played for
part-time.
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
:
: 老大，你是说她在yale的时候就赚了20万么，我第一次看到她是high stake poker，一
: 把牌就把20万给送走了。。。。
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 9 和人家比， 就觉得自己努力的太不够。 我大了两年full time online, 算上
rakeback, winning（husng+rush) 也就将近200k. 发现自己 大牌的时间太多了， 花
在学习和提高自己的时间太少了。
看了 bluefire 和 cr 上 的vid ,才觉得自己的 leak 太多了， 还有心理素质
也还不算过关。 想把自己的game 提高， 还是应该多学习， 思考。。。
she
for
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: yes, she had this interview with cardplayer before and talked about how she
: got started. a great score for a busy ivy league student who only played for
: part-time.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 这个专职打牌挣得真是有点少。 我part time 混混，两年不到从一点holdem都不会开打，大部分时间（一年半多）都在NL 50以下学习的都可以搞到30k.. 这full time pro 两年200k 的确不咋的.
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: 和人家比， 就觉得自己努力的太不够。 我大了两年full time online, 算上
: rakeback, winning（husng+rush) 也就将近200k. 发现自己 大牌的时间太多了， 花
: 在学习和提高自己的时间太少了。
: 看了 bluefire 和 cr 上 的vid ,才觉得自己的 leak 太多了， 还有心理素质
: 也还不算过关。 想把自己的game 提高， 还是应该多学习， 思考。。。
:
: she
: for
| | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 well, not a fair comparison though, hehe, 100K/yr/FT is definitely a great
score, remember the fact 85% of players are actually long-term losers. i
guess <1% of players can really make 100K+, PT or FT.
开打，大部分时间（一年半多）都在NL 50以下学习的都可以搞到30k.. 这full time
pro 两年200k 的确不咋的.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这个专职打牌挣得真是有点少。 我part time 混混，两年不到从一点holdem都不会开打，大部分时间（一年半多）都在NL 50以下学习的都可以搞到30k.. 这full time pro 两年200k 的确不咋的.
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 12 你是牛人， 俺从来没想更你比。。。
我只是觉得自己在学习，提高上努力远不够， 太多时间用来打牌了。。 不然会
有不同的
成绩。
开打，大部分时间（一年半多）都在NL 50以下学习的都可以搞到30k.. 这full time
pro 两年200k 的确不咋的.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这个专职打牌挣得真是有点少。 我part time 混混，两年不到从一点holdem都不会开打，大部分时间（一年半多）都在NL 50以下学习的都可以搞到30k.. 这full time pro 两年200k 的确不咋的.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 13 in 2009, the best 100NL players online (PS/FTP) made about 30K in a year (
without rakeback), they all played close to 1 million hands, which is almost
a FT load, if not yet.
and they got beat up in 200NL, so we cannot simply assume that (xK * more
time * higher level) would make us more money accordingly.
开打，大部分时间（一年半多）都在NL 50以下学习的都可以搞到30k.. 这full time
pro 两年200k 的确不咋的.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这个专职打牌挣得真是有点少。 我part time 混混，两年不到从一点holdem都不会开打，大部分时间（一年半多）都在NL 50以下学习的都可以搞到30k.. 这full time pro 两年200k 的确不咋的.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 14 great score compared to 85% of loser who mostly just play to lose..of course.
but to be a full time pro. I think this score is bare minimum.
FCF is right, at least need to make 3X of how much you can make in a regular
job to even consider becoming a pro. Before black friday, i think I could
have made 100K a year playing full time. But I obviously would never have
quit my job for it.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: well, not a fair comparison though, hehe, 100K/yr/FT is definitely a great
: score, remember the fact 85% of players are actually long-term losers. i
: guess <1% of players can really make 100K+, PT or FT.
:
: 开打，大部分时间（一年半多）都在NL 50以下学习的都可以搞到30k.. 这full time
: pro 两年200k 的确不咋的.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 15 well, not to discourage you, but when you indeed get to 100K/yr, you might
have a diff. view.
as a ref., many big name pros' "career" winnings are around $2-3 million,
and they played for their whole lives, which is less than $100K/yr actually.
course.
regular
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: great score compared to 85% of loser who mostly just play to lose..of course.
: but to be a full time pro. I think this score is bare minimum.
: FCF is right, at least need to make 3X of how much you can make in a regular
: job to even consider becoming a pro. Before black friday, i think I could
: have made 100K a year playing full time. But I obviously would never have
: quit my job for it.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 16 I don't want to recalculate the earning, but based on my calculation. it is
not hard to reach 100k/yr playing NL100 rush even. only minimum win rate
needed. all you really need is to make 3k ftp points per day, which is not hard at all playing full time. Of course it is not important anymore since ftp is gone. But I think i can totally do it 100k/yr playing full time back then. But it never crosses my mind that i would quit my job. 300k or 400k /year. maybe i will
start considering.
actually.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: well, not to discourage you, but when you indeed get to 100K/yr, you might
: have a diff. view.
: as a ref., many big name pros' "career" winnings are around $2-3 million,
: and they played for their whole lives, which is less than $100K/yr actually.
:
: course.
: regular
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 17 easier said than done, hehe, the 2009 best online players all played 24 tables
(equivalent to 4 table rush), still, they "only" made $30K with a 3BB/100
like "average" win rate. even with rakeback, they're still far away from
100K/yr.
BUT, they're still called the "best" players on PS/FTP from all players'
data, imagine the rest of the crowd.
the best tourney player (top 3, 3 years in a row) in the world, gboro780,
made about $700K/yr. many small pros who made ~50K are already in the top 1%
on officialpokerranking list (millions of players tracked).
until you get there, don't call it not hard yet. otherwise, we're almost
like someone just sits down and wins a big hand in the first hand, and starts
to plan for a pro life.
fcf is top 5 in the world at his level, for an avg. month, he makes about $
20-30K, and consistently for a few years.
is
I
never
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I don't want to recalculate the earning, but based on my calculation. it is
: not hard to reach 100k/yr playing NL100 rush even. only minimum win rate
: needed. all you really need is to make 3k ftp points per day, which is not hard at all playing full time. Of course it is not important anymore since ftp is gone. But I think i can totally do it 100k/yr playing full time back then. But it never crosses my mind that i would quit my job. 300k or 400k /year. maybe i will
: start considering.
:
: actually.
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 18 300-400k/y will put you on top 3 of SNG leader board, across all
online site.
Not quite fair to compare MTT pro, since the variance is just so big.
Winning one big MTT can change everyting. So is high stake cash game. Many
top pro, even like durrr has losing year. He only made less than 4 million
career online. Not quite sure for middle stake online pro though, but I am
sure that the swing is so big that their winning would be so different each
year.
Anyway, not all ppl are as good as you, but there are still so many ppl can
make a living in poker by winning less than 300k /year, at least I am one
of them.
is
hard at all playing full time. Of course it is not important anymore since
ftp is gone. But I think i can totally do it 100k/yr playing full time back
then. But it never crosses my mind that i would quit my job. 300k or 400k /
year. maybe i will
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I don't want to recalculate the earning, but based on my calculation. it is
: not hard to reach 100k/yr playing NL100 rush even. only minimum win rate
: needed. all you really need is to make 3k ftp points per day, which is not hard at all playing full time. Of course it is not important anymore since ftp is gone. But I think i can totally do it 100k/yr playing full time back then. But it never crosses my mind that i would quit my job. 300k or 400k /year. maybe i will
: start considering.
:
: actually.
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 19 75%的人认为自己比其他75%的人强，这句话不是空穴来风滴
tables
1%
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: easier said than done, hehe, the 2009 best online players all played 24 tables
: (equivalent to 4 table rush), still, they "only" made $30K with a 3BB/100
: like "average" win rate. even with rakeback, they're still far away from
: 100K/yr.
: BUT, they're still called the "best" players on PS/FTP from all players'
: data, imagine the rest of the crowd.
: the best tourney player (top 3, 3 years in a row) in the world, gboro780,
: made about $700K/yr. many small pros who made ~50K are already in the top 1%
: on officialpokerranking list (millions of players tracked).
: until you get there, don't call it not hard yet. otherwise, we're almost
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 20 扑克就是一将功成万骨枯的行当，即使功成了，城头变幻大王旗也快，远的不说，翻翻
近10年的牛B人物名单，很多现在都不知所终了。
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 75%的人认为自己比其他75%的人强，这句话不是空穴来风滴
:
: tables
: 1%
| | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 21 live or online, who can survive years with stable income is a sure big
winner.
Many
am
each
ppl can
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: 300-400k/y will put you on top 3 of SNG leader board, across all
: online site.
: Not quite fair to compare MTT pro, since the variance is just so big.
: Winning one big MTT can change everyting. So is high stake cash game. Many
: top pro, even like durrr has losing year. He only made less than 4 million
: career online. Not quite sure for middle stake online pro though, but I am
: sure that the swing is so big that their winning would be so different each
: year.
: Anyway, not all ppl are as good as you, but there are still so many ppl can
: make a living in poker by winning less than 300k /year, at least I am one
| h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 22 durrr, ivey这些人在FTP的钱能拿出来么？这帮人不知道是不是也经常cash out，就留
个1M。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 扑克就是一将功成万骨枯的行当，即使功成了，城头变幻大王旗也快，远的不说，翻翻
: 近10年的牛B人物名单，很多现在都不知所终了。
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 23 My estimate of earning is based on my win rate over 300k hands over my
last 5 month of NL100. You can argue that this is not big enough sample size
. But I want to point it out that the majority of earning (60-70%) come from
fixed income (rake back and ftp point purchased cash bonuses). This largely
reduces the variance. To make 100k/per year, minimum winrate is needed
around 2bb/100 hand is even enough. I don't care who is the best player
out there, or what the best player out there do. I am saying that making
100k/year 4 table rush was not that difficult even if you could only win
minimum based on my own experience and calculation. Do some math yourself
before you say that it is not possible.
tables
1%
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: easier said than done, hehe, the 2009 best online players all played 24 tables
: (equivalent to 4 table rush), still, they "only" made $30K with a 3BB/100
: like "average" win rate. even with rakeback, they're still far away from
: 100K/yr.
: BUT, they're still called the "best" players on PS/FTP from all players'
: data, imagine the rest of the crowd.
: the best tourney player (top 3, 3 years in a row) in the world, gboro780,
: made about $700K/yr. many small pros who made ~50K are already in the top 1%
: on officialpokerranking list (millions of players tracked).
: until you get there, don't call it not hard yet. otherwise, we're almost
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 24 I could NOT make 300-400k/year. I am not that good or at least I don't
have evidence I can or can not. That is why I never even thought about
turning pro.
on the other hand, making 100k/y is not too difficult playing just NL100 rush. I
know I could have done it. Because the level is so low and most of earning
come from bonus and ftp points, the variance is also RELATIVELY small.
Many
am
each
ppl can
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: 300-400k/y will put you on top 3 of SNG leader board, across all
: online site.
: Not quite fair to compare MTT pro, since the variance is just so big.
: Winning one big MTT can change everyting. So is high stake cash game. Many
: top pro, even like durrr has losing year. He only made less than 4 million
: career online. Not quite sure for middle stake online pro though, but I am
: sure that the swing is so big that their winning would be so different each
: year.
: Anyway, not all ppl are as good as you, but there are still so many ppl can
: make a living in poker by winning less than 300k /year, at least I am one
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 25 The real sad part of losing on-linen poker FOR ME is not losing the
ability of making 100k/y income from poker, but unable to know whether I
have the potential to make 300-400k/y anymore. I will never know without
trying.
rush. I
earning
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I could NOT make 300-400k/year. I am not that good or at least I don't
: have evidence I can or can not. That is why I never even thought about
: turning pro.
: on the other hand, making 100k/y is not too difficult playing just NL100 rush. I
: know I could have done it. Because the level is so low and most of earning
: come from bonus and ftp points, the variance is also RELATIVELY small.
:
: Many
: am
: each
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 26 lol, i'm not saying it's not possible, but disagree that it's "not hard" or
100K/yr is not a great score. 300K hands or 5 months is small as a sample
size, this i totally agree.
the best players "only" made 3BB/100 for a reason. poker is not a game that
we put in time/energe and with some edge (if we do), then we're guaranteed
xK/yr.
size
from
largely
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: My estimate of earning is based on my win rate over 300k hands over my
: last 5 month of NL100. You can argue that this is not big enough sample size
: . But I want to point it out that the majority of earning (60-70%) come from
: fixed income (rake back and ftp point purchased cash bonuses). This largely
: reduces the variance. To make 100k/per year, minimum winrate is needed
: around 2bb/100 hand is even enough. I don't care who is the best player
: out there, or what the best player out there do. I am saying that making
: 100k/year 4 table rush was not that difficult even if you could only win
: minimum based on my own experience and calculation. Do some math yourself
: before you say that it is not possible.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 27 I don't disagree the second part. but to beat NL100 at 2bb/100 hand is
really not that difficult. Remember FCF said that you just need a brain that
can make you graduate from high school to beat NL200? lol. I tend to agree
with that as long as you really want to get better and learn.
that
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: lol, i'm not saying it's not possible, but disagree that it's "not hard" or
: 100K/yr is not a great score. 300K hands or 5 months is small as a sample
: size, this i totally agree.
: the best players "only" made 3BB/100 for a reason. poker is not a game that
: we put in time/energe and with some edge (if we do), then we're guaranteed
: xK/yr.
:
: size
: from
: largely
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 28 well, guess 99.99% players don't have a brain then since they all cannot
beat NL200, let alone 2BB.
something sounds easy to fcf may not apply to us, just like einstein may
never understand why we're so stupid, hehe.
that
agree
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I don't disagree the second part. but to beat NL100 at 2bb/100 hand is
: really not that difficult. Remember FCF said that you just need a brain that
: can make you graduate from high school to beat NL200? lol. I tend to agree
: with that as long as you really want to get better and learn.
:
: that
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 29 everyone has a brain to graduate from high school can get a phd from mit or
harvard， how many do？
that
agree
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I don't disagree the second part. but to beat NL100 at 2bb/100 hand is
: really not that difficult. Remember FCF said that you just need a brain that
: can make you graduate from high school to beat NL200? lol. I tend to agree
: with that as long as you really want to get better and learn.
:
: that
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 30 "if they want to, they will"
"if they still don't, they're not working hard enough"
"if they work harder and still don't, then mit and harvard must be closed"
or
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: everyone has a brain to graduate from high school can get a phd from mit or
: harvard， how many do？
:
: that
: agree
| | | p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 31 en. One of the toughest thing of playing FT is that you have take certain
portion of your winning out for your living expense/saving etc. If I had
kept all my winning online, I would make much faster progress.
Also, you have to be able to tolerate variance , which is another very
tough part of playing poker to make a living. Guess pro stock trader will
have similiar experiece. I made 50$ deposit two years ago on FTP and started to play HUSNG. I turned 50$
into 1k$ within a week and 2.5k$ within 3 weeks, with minimum risk.
At that point, I thought I could make big score like half million/
year easily. Apparently, I was wrong. When I kept moving up, bad
variance came, which could make you tilt for bad beat after bad beat and
somewhat off your game. In retrospect, these kind of tilt is almost
unavoidable, although I could do much better on emotion/ego control.
Agree with fryking, these kind of stuff is easy to say, but hard to
do and sustain for a long time. Anway, I think I could do a lot better by
spending more time in learning/improving. That is what I am spending a lot
of time with now. I am not giving it up.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: well, guess 99.99% players don't have a brain then since they all cannot
: beat NL200, let alone 2BB.
: something sounds easy to fcf may not apply to us, just like einstein may
: never understand why we're so stupid, hehe.
:
: that
: agree
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 32 I don't known how u really play. But based on what u wrote here, you must be
an exceptional player, because the only thing u mentioned here that prevent
u going up is bad beat, tilt and variance. Well played man. Hehe..
However, this does seem to be the main reasons for most player's bad run or
losing record.
I can't say the same about myself. Because tilt control and understanding
variance is what I am best at. If I can't level up ever, there is only
reason-- i am not a good enough poker player at that level.
en. One of the toughest thing of playing FT is that you have take certain
portion of you........
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【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: en. One of the toughest thing of playing FT is that you have take certain
: portion of your winning out for your living expense/saving etc. If I had
: kept all my winning online, I would make much faster progress.
:
: Also, you have to be able to tolerate variance , which is another very
: tough part of playing poker to make a living. Guess pro stock trader will
: have similiar experiece. I made 50$ deposit two years ago on FTP and started to play HUSNG. I turned 50$
: into 1k$ within a week and 2.5k$ within 3 weeks, with minimum risk.
: At that point, I thought I could make big score like half million/
: year easily. Apparently, I was wrong. When I kept moving up, bad
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 Ego is definitely one of the major reason that people can't improve quickly
for those who wants to improve(some people just don't care about losing,
those we like to call fish). The major road block in poker skill
improvement is the inability to identify a good play or bad play. This is
also where ego clashes the most. It is very hard to convince someone for a
bad play when he/she can actually win 45% of the time for example. Hehe...
The actual intelligence needed to win poker is not that much at least at low
level like nl 100 online. After all it's only 54..err. I mean 52 cards. And
only 5 are used to make a hand . lol
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: well, guess 99.99% players don't have a brain then since they all cannot
: beat NL200, let alone 2BB.
: something sounds easy to fcf may not apply to us, just like einstein may
: never understand why we're so stupid, hehe.
:
: that
: agree
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 34 I just mentioned in early post that I did not spend enough time to study/improve
my game. I also admit in my early post that I have lots of leak as well, like
overvalue bluff opportunity of big card playing HU.
Tilt/ego issue is another major factor that prevent me from further
success.
I do not have a single losing month record playing online though. Only
one losing month in HUSNG ,but I had decent score in 2-4 rush that month.
be
prevent
or
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I don't known how u really play. But based on what u wrote here, you must be
: an exceptional player, because the only thing u mentioned here that prevent
: u going up is bad beat, tilt and variance. Well played man. Hehe..
: However, this does seem to be the main reasons for most player's bad run or
: losing record.
: I can't say the same about myself. Because tilt control and understanding
: variance is what I am best at. If I can't level up ever, there is only
: reason-- i am not a good enough poker player at that level.
:
: en. One of the toughest thing of playing FT is that you have take certain
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 35 3bb/100 is before rakeback
if you consider the sick bonus+rakeback from FTP, I think you can get at
least 5bb/100 more.
or
that
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: lol, i'm not saying it's not possible, but disagree that it's "not hard" or
: 100K/yr is not a great score. 300K hands or 5 months is small as a sample
: size, this i totally agree.
: the best players "only" made 3BB/100 for a reason. poker is not a game that
: we put in time/energe and with some edge (if we do), then we're guaranteed
: xK/yr.
:
: size
: from
: largely
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 36 I totally agree with you on the learning part!
Before BF, I can only say I can make money from 6-max ST on FTP.
After BF, I was forced to play cash on Merge. I can't even beat 25NL before
BF. But I spent a lot of time on reading NL cash materials and watched at
least 100
vids(6max or HU cash) from CR.
I think I can play at 50NL level on Merge, at least break even before RB.
But I am not sure whether this will apply to mid-stake NL cash because I
felt
uncomfortable playing 6-max midstake cash games.
I also want to mention that playing cash games is not the best way to earn
money on line. I think players playing SNG can earn much more if you
consider
all bonus.
very
started to play HUSNG. I turned 50$
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: en. One of the toughest thing of playing FT is that you have take certain
: portion of your winning out for your living expense/saving etc. If I had
: kept all my winning online, I would make much faster progress.
:
: Also, you have to be able to tolerate variance , which is another very
: tough part of playing poker to make a living. Guess pro stock trader will
: have similiar experiece. I made 50$ deposit two years ago on FTP and started to play HUSNG. I turned 50$
: into 1k$ within a week and 2.5k$ within 3 weeks, with minimum risk.
: At that point, I thought I could make big score like half million/
: year easily. Apparently, I was wrong. When I kept moving up, bad
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 37 I agree with you that beating NL 100 online is totally not very difficult.
quickly
a
.
low
And
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Ego is definitely one of the major reason that people can't improve quickly
: for those who wants to improve(some people just don't care about losing,
: those we like to call fish). The major road block in poker skill
: improvement is the inability to identify a good play or bad play. This is
: also where ego clashes the most. It is very hard to convince someone for a
: bad play when he/she can actually win 45% of the time for example. Hehe...
: The actual intelligence needed to win poker is not that much at least at low
: level like nl 100 online. After all it's only 54..err. I mean 52 cards. And
: only 5 are used to make a hand . lol
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 38 you are right.
300-400k/y will put you on top 3 of SNG leader board, across all
online site.
If you play 6man or 9man, you are guarantee to play high stakes, and play
against those top pros day in and day out, and you still get a solid ROI,
probably one of the highest ROI among those top pros. And all other top pros
will not be happy to stay at your table.
if you can make that much on HUSNG, you are top 3 without any question,
because you are guaranteed to play against all top world level players, and
apparently you can beat them. At least, you can break even with them.
In cash, I am 100% sure that you are playing at 5/10, 10/20, 25/50 + level,
you beat or break even against all other top pros. maybe you are still a
slightly underdog against durrrr, PA, but not that much. At least, you can
be a qualified High stake poker coach on CR. Pretty sure you know everything
on poker.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/blogs/ftr-exclusive-interview-tom-
Many
am
each
ppl can
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: I just mentioned in early post that I did not spend enough time to study/improve
: my game. I also admit in my early post that I have lots of leak as well, like
: overvalue bluff opportunity of big card playing HU.
: Tilt/ego issue is another major factor that prevent me from further
: success.
:
: I do not have a single losing month record playing online though. Only
: one losing month in HUSNG ,but I had decent score in 2-4 rush that month.
:
: be
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 39 Vassesa is very good.She knows everything, and she gets the nuts.
That TT fold is horrible, because Vassesa could have Ace Queen high, or crap there to bluff the river.
preflop
hand
decent
She
shove
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: I just mentioned in early post that I did not spend enough time to study/improve
: my game. I also admit in my early post that I have lots of leak as well, like
: overvalue bluff opportunity of big card playing HU.
: Tilt/ego issue is another major factor that prevent me from further
: success.
:
: I do not have a single losing month record playing online though. Only
: one losing month in HUSNG ,but I had decent score in 2-4 rush that month.
:
: be
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 40 without Rush, only 2BB/100 is not good enough.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: I agree with you that beating NL 100 online is totally not very difficult.
:
: quickly
: a
: .
: low
: And
| | | p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 41 Even beating NL400 Rush is not that hard at all. Rush poker is a lot
simpler than regular cash table game in many aspects, imo.
FR Rush is kind of non brainer game, not much poker thinking
envolved, since no fixed table, no table image, no game flow etc. You mainly
judge your opp by these stat on hud. Some basic poker training can make you
a long term winner with good emotion control.
You do not need much experience to beat NL 400 Rush. There is a
Chinese guy( uatheone) who only played poker a little bit over a year who
was doing fairly well in Electro before FTP got shutdown.
Just keep finger acrossed that we can play Rush again soon :).
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: I agree with you that beating NL 100 online is totally not very difficult.
:
: quickly
: a
: .
: low
: And
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 42 I watched some vid from CTS and Internet poker on CR on HU play. They
are decent. But vid made by Phil G on blurefire are just so much better, in
term of level of thinking.
On SNG, most of the profit of SNG on high stake comes from HUSNG
nowdays, check leaderboard on SS. High stake(over 80) 6 man or 9 man table
are just so hard to beat since too many regs.
before
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: I totally agree with you on the learning part!
: Before BF, I can only say I can make money from 6-max ST on FTP.
: After BF, I was forced to play cash on Merge. I can't even beat 25NL before
: BF. But I spent a lot of time on reading NL cash materials and watched at
: least 100
: vids(6max or HU cash) from CR.
: I think I can play at 50NL level on Merge, at least break even before RB.
: But I am not sure whether this will apply to mid-stake NL cash because I
: felt
: uncomfortable playing 6-max midstake cash games.
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 43 我现在用multi-table工具在Merge上FR一小时有1k手，基本很接近以前我在FTP上FR
Rush一小时手速了
mainly
you
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: I watched some vid from CTS and Internet poker on CR on HU play. They
: are decent. But vid made by Phil G on blurefire are just so much better, in
: term of level of thinking.
: On SNG, most of the profit of SNG on high stake comes from HUSNG
: nowdays, check leaderboard on SS. High stake(over 80) 6 man or 9 man table
: are just so hard to beat since too many regs.
:
: before
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 44 这个HUSNG的fish是从哪里来的呢？？
They
in
table
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: I watched some vid from CTS and Internet poker on CR on HU play. They
: are decent. But vid made by Phil G on blurefire are just so much better, in
: term of level of thinking.
: On SNG, most of the profit of SNG on high stake comes from HUSNG
: nowdays, check leaderboard on SS. High stake(over 80) 6 man or 9 man table
: are just so hard to beat since too many regs.
:
: before
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 45 niu! you use something like tableninja ? how many tables do u play?
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 我现在用multi-table工具在Merge上FR一小时有1k手，基本很接近以前我在FTP上FR
: Rush一小时手速了
:
: mainly
: you
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 46 just so many rich guy love to gamble in HU, guess one-one is just so
much fun for them. plus all your weakness in poker can be enlarged and
exploited in HUSNG. On high stake HU, a lot of cash game pro and MTT pro who
are not good HU are considered fish. Before BF, I played with many 100 or
200 level HUSNG with MTT redline pro, doing fairly good.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 这个HUSNG的fish是从哪里来的呢？？
:
: They
: in
: table
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 47 Merge上有一个免费的，我以前用过table ninja for PS，我觉得基本差不多吧
我觉得TN这破软件还收钱简直太坑爹了
桌数应该20左右吧，毫无压力，以前没用软件只能一小时600-700都很不舒服
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: just so many rich guy love to gamble in HU, guess one-one is just so
: much fun for them. plus all your weakness in poker can be enlarged and
: exploited in HUSNG. On high stake HU, a lot of cash game pro and MTT pro who
: are not good HU are considered fish. Before BF, I played with many 100 or
: 200 level HUSNG with MTT redline pro, doing fairly good.
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 48 我觉得MTT pro很多人有ego问题啊，我还看到有人因为玩200多6-max ST破产的经历
真是。。。。。。。
who
or
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: just so many rich guy love to gamble in HU, guess one-one is just so
: much fun for them. plus all your weakness in poker can be enlarged and
: exploited in HUSNG. On high stake HU, a lot of cash game pro and MTT pro who
: are not good HU are considered fish. Before BF, I played with many 100 or
: 200 level HUSNG with MTT redline pro, doing fairly good.
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 49 usually MTT pro, big winner.
Cash fish, donate money
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得MTT pro很多人有ego问题啊，我还看到有人因为玩200多6-max ST破产的经历
: 真是。。。。。。。
:
: who
: or
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 50 Usually, pro will play against pro very often in HUSNG. Otherwise, they are
just bum hunter, not top pros.
HU cash is almost completely dead now.
who
or
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: just so many rich guy love to gamble in HU, guess one-one is just so
: much fun for them. plus all your weakness in poker can be enlarged and
: exploited in HUSNG. On high stake HU, a lot of cash game pro and MTT pro who
: are not good HU are considered fish. Before BF, I played with many 100 or
: 200 level HUSNG with MTT redline pro, doing fairly good.
| | | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 51 merge 上竟然能开出20桌NL100? traffic 不错啊。。。能20table regular table 就
比4 桌rush volume 只多不少了。 very nice.. I really should start seriously
playing again. Your success makes me want to play again.. lol... since
last Thursday, I didn't play at all.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: Merge上有一个免费的，我以前用过table ninja for PS，我觉得基本差不多吧
: 我觉得TN这破软件还收钱简直太坑爹了
: 桌数应该20左右吧，毫无压力，以前没用软件只能一小时600-700都很不舒服
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 52 NL100+NL50啊
seriously
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: merge 上竟然能开出20桌NL100? traffic 不错啊。。。能20table regular table 就
: 比4 桌rush volume 只多不少了。 very nice.. I really should start seriously
: playing again. Your success makes me want to play again.. lol... since
: last Thursday, I didn't play at all.
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 53 就昨天晚上NL200也有10+桌的FR
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: NL100+NL50啊
:
: seriously
| d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 54 哥们儿 你升级如火箭啊 sportsbook 有最多18桌的限制 莫非你的tool可以hack它 | s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 55 Merge上没这限制啊。。。。。。
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 哥们儿 你升级如火箭啊 sportsbook 有最多18桌的限制 莫非你的tool可以hack它
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 56 how many monitors do u use when playing 20 tables? I never feel too
comfortable when putting more than 6 tables in one monitor.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: Merge上没这限制啊。。。。。。
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 57 一个，呵呵，我交错叠放的，每个桌子大小大概在屏幕的1/6左右，button的位置是不
一样的
软件可以自动圈红当前的桌子以及鼠标自动跳转到当前桌子
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: how many monitors do u use when playing 20 tables? I never feel too
: comfortable when putting more than 6 tables in one monitor.
:
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