w**********5 发帖数: 1741 | 1 Sandra Harwitt
SHANGHAI -- When a player takes long-term ownership of the world No. 1
ranking, natural swagger becomes a given.
That profile is the perfect fit for Novak Djokovic, who currently sits well
atop the rankings ladder. The Serbian sensation is into his 168th overall
week as the game's alpha and has ended four of the past five years -- all
but 2013 -- as the best in the business.
Djokovic, who came through with a 7-6 (6), 6-1 win against Bernard Tomic of
Australia on Friday to reach the Shanghai Masters semifinals, continues to
place himself in that alternate stratosphere, where only a few special
champions before him have journeyed. This year, he became one of only three
players in the Open era to reach all four Grand Slam finals in a season (Rod
Laver in 1969 and Roger Federer in 2006, '07 and '09 are the others).
By winning this year's Australian Open, Wimbledon and US Open titles, a feat
he also achieved in 2011, Djokovic increased his Grand Slam trophy tally to
10 and counting.
Djokovic, 28, is aware of recent chatter suggesting he, rather than Rafael
Nadal, owner of 14 Grand Slam titles, could be the one who surpasses Federer
's current record of 17 major victories. And he is inspired by the challenge
of the chase.
Novak Djokovic is seven Grand Slam titles behind Roger Federer, but the Serb
has been cutting the deficit quickly. Lintao Zhang/Getty Images
"Obviously, I've experienced incredible things in my career, my life,"
Djokovic said at his news conference in Shanghai. "Nothing is impossible. I
have that kind of mindset. I know that it's still a long way to break his
record. But people even mentioning and talking about it, obviously it
flatters me."
The question, of course, is going to be how much longer Djokovic, who turns
29 in May, can play at this level.
Tennis' Open era began in 1968, and in that time there have been 192 Grand
Slam events. Of those, only 28 players at the age of 29 or older have run
the table at a major.
To add some perspective, Federer has only one Slam title since he turned 29
(he was actually a month shy of his 31st birthday), a feat he accomplished
at Wimbledon in 2012. And Nadal, who turned 29 in June, has declined rapidly
this season.
"I love this sport," Djokovic said. "I feel like there are many more years
in front of me. Hopefully, if I'm able to sustain this level of dedication
and level of performance, the way I play tennis, I think I have a good
chance to compete for the trophy on any Grand Slam in the future."
The good news for Djokovic is that while tennis is still very much a young
man's sport, the current crop of top-tier players is trending older. Six
players in the current top 15 are 30 or older. This season, heading into
Shanghai, there were 20 occasions of a player 30 years or older winning a
singles title, compared to 13 last season. Barring injury or lack of
interest, there's little to suggest Djokovic won't be fully in the title mix
when he reaches this milestone age.
Last week, he picked up his eighth trophy of the year in Beijing, a
tournament Djokovic has won six times. Since a quarterfinal defeat to Ivo
Karlovic at the ExxonMobil Open in Doha, Qatar, the first week of the 2015
season, Djokovic has strutted into a career-high 12 consecutive finals.
"Considering the fact that I've won so many matches this year and
tournaments, probably the best season of my life definitely, anywhere I go I
'm confident," Djokovic said. "Especially towards the end of the season,
knowing that in previous years I've played consistently well and was very
successful in the last couple of months of the season. That encourages me,
gives me incentive to go out on the court and play the best that I can."
One of the perks that comes with being a player of Djokovic's caliber is the
fear factor.
"I'm aware of the mental edge that I might have over a certain amount of
players, and I try to use that," Djokovic said. "I try to win and do
anything that is possible and necessary for me to achieve that. You have to
earn the respect from the other players by playing well, being consistent,
coming onto the court with confidence."
Give his dominance over every player in his path in recent years, the only
real threat to Djokovic's pursuit of Federer is time. But even that doesn't
seem like it'll be a match for the world No. 1. |
D****r 发帖数: 361 | 2 For Joker, the most unlikely record to break is the # of 17 slams. But he
has a very good shot at many other Fed's records:
the number of weeks as No 1;
the number of year-end No 1s (Sampras' record==6);
He is also on the fast track to break Nadal's 27 masters. If he achieves all
these
, and gets >= 14 slams, many people will put him in the conversation of GOAT
, assuming Fed didn't win slam any more.
At 14 slams, Djoker's case as the GOAT will be much stronger than Nadal's,
or Sampras'.
well
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【在 w**********5 的大作中提到】 : Sandra Harwitt : SHANGHAI -- When a player takes long-term ownership of the world No. 1 : ranking, natural swagger becomes a given. : That profile is the perfect fit for Novak Djokovic, who currently sits well : atop the rankings ladder. The Serbian sensation is into his 168th overall : week as the game's alpha and has ended four of the past five years -- all : but 2013 -- as the best in the business. : Djokovic, who came through with a 7-6 (6), 6-1 win against Bernard Tomic of : Australia on Friday to reach the Shanghai Masters semifinals, continues to : place himself in that alternate stratosphere, where only a few special
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l********e 发帖数: 3999 | 3 世界第一的周数还差134,能破才怪,年终还差3年,更是不可能的
all
GOAT
【在 D****r 的大作中提到】 : For Joker, the most unlikely record to break is the # of 17 slams. But he : has a very good shot at many other Fed's records: : the number of weeks as No 1; : the number of year-end No 1s (Sampras' record==6); : He is also on the fast track to break Nadal's 27 masters. If he achieves all : these : , and gets >= 14 slams, many people will put him in the conversation of GOAT : , assuming Fed didn't win slam any more. : At 14 slams, Djoker's case as the GOAT will be much stronger than Nadal's, : or Sampras'.
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h**********e 发帖数: 4328 | 4 都没戏
就大师赛比较可能 可惜没啥用
all
GOAT
【在 D****r 的大作中提到】 : For Joker, the most unlikely record to break is the # of 17 slams. But he : has a very good shot at many other Fed's records: : the number of weeks as No 1; : the number of year-end No 1s (Sampras' record==6); : He is also on the fast track to break Nadal's 27 masters. If he achieves all : these : , and gets >= 14 slams, many people will put him in the conversation of GOAT : , assuming Fed didn't win slam any more. : At 14 slams, Djoker's case as the GOAT will be much stronger than Nadal's, : or Sampras'.
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D****r 发帖数: 361 | 5 其实也就是两年多的时间,现在靠惯性轻松一年多就过去了。世界第一的周数主要靠稳
定,现在老人们,老费,纳豆,穆雷,可能嬴他,排名超过基本没戏。新人影儿都看不
到,也许2018这个目标就实现了。
【在 l********e 的大作中提到】 : 世界第一的周数还差134,能破才怪,年终还差3年,更是不可能的 : : all : GOAT
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h*h 发帖数: 18873 | |
h**********e 发帖数: 4328 | 7 德子的number1估计还有80周左右
【在 D****r 的大作中提到】 : 其实也就是两年多的时间,现在靠惯性轻松一年多就过去了。世界第一的周数主要靠稳 : 定,现在老人们,老费,纳豆,穆雷,可能嬴他,排名超过基本没戏。新人影儿都看不 : 到,也许2018这个目标就实现了。
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k*******r 发帖数: 16963 | |
b**********s 发帖数: 9531 | |
c******s 发帖数: 2163 | 10 我觉得大德子有戏, 老费那时是后面跟着不少小5岁的厉害主, 现在大德子28岁, 23
岁这一档的就没个靠谱的, 所以德子坚持搞三年还是有希望的。 |
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h**********e 发帖数: 4328 | 11 没戏
明年搞一年就不中了
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【在 c******s 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得大德子有戏, 老费那时是后面跟着不少小5岁的厉害主, 现在大德子28岁, 23 : 岁这一档的就没个靠谱的, 所以德子坚持搞三年还是有希望的。
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M*****n 发帖数: 282 | 12 Nick Kyrgios 找个好教练应该可以阻击德子,他比19岁的小德厉害吧
[在 cnnsucks (hl) 的大作中提到:]
:我觉得大德子有戏, 老费那时是后面跟着不少小5岁的厉害主, 现在大德子28岁,
23岁这一档的就没个靠谱的, 所以德子坚持搞三年还是有希望的。 |
c******s 发帖数: 2163 | 13 流氓除非醒悟否则就和MONFIS 一样空空误了青春。 大德子21岁已经问鼎大满贯, 流
氓已经没19岁了, 正奔向21岁。
,
【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】 : Nick Kyrgios 找个好教练应该可以阻击德子,他比19岁的小德厉害吧 : [在 cnnsucks (hl) 的大作中提到:] : :我觉得大德子有戏, 老费那时是后面跟着不少小5岁的厉害主, 现在大德子28岁, : 23岁这一档的就没个靠谱的, 所以德子坚持搞三年还是有希望的。
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 14 我德最后很可能是15-16个,超不过他费,不过应该可以超过他豆。他大概还有3年奔头
。下面3年大满贯可能是3,2,1或者2,2,1,顶死了3,2,2,跟老费一样。要想超过老费,
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h**********e 发帖数: 4328 | 15 估计211或210
搞不好100 lol
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】 : 我德最后很可能是15-16个,超不过他费,不过应该可以超过他豆。他大概还有3年奔头 : 。下面3年大满贯可能是3,2,1或者2,2,1,顶死了3,2,2,跟老费一样。要想超过老费, : 必须3,3,2或更好,太难了。
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f**********g 发帖数: 1056 | 16 为啥你们都只数三年呢?
德子绝对是奔山羊去的。起码得打到35,33应该还能拿满贯。不象老费,他没有明显的
苦手。象现在,老费拿不到满贯了,只能是他拿了。今年老费两进决赛都被他搞掂,信
心打击比较大啊。
其他人,算了吧。 |
b**********s 发帖数: 9531 | 17 最近两次和老费比都是3:1,说明两人还是很接近的。
另外德子的game倚赖体力,如果身体出一点毛病,成就就会下降,豆子就是例子。
综合看各种风险,德子超过老费的可能性几乎为零。
【在 f**********g 的大作中提到】 : 为啥你们都只数三年呢? : 德子绝对是奔山羊去的。起码得打到35,33应该还能拿满贯。不象老费,他没有明显的 : 苦手。象现在,老费拿不到满贯了,只能是他拿了。今年老费两进决赛都被他搞掂,信 : 心打击比较大啊。 : 其他人,算了吧。
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f*****n 发帖数: 18176 | 18 先拿到十四个
【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】 : 最近两次和老费比都是3:1,说明两人还是很接近的。 : 另外德子的game倚赖体力,如果身体出一点毛病,成就就会下降,豆子就是例子。 : 综合看各种风险,德子超过老费的可能性几乎为零。
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D*******y 发帖数: 4252 | 19 擦,等德子大满贯数目先赶上我豆再说其他的好不好,还差4个呢!
德子年纪在这儿摆着,满28岁了,他这打法对体力要求很高,今年的状态基本不可复制
,明后年多半又回到一满贯状态。
历史前三位的老费我豆桑神28岁之后拿过几个大满贯?老费2,桑神2,我豆0。
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【在 c******s 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得大德子有戏, 老费那时是后面跟着不少小5岁的厉害主, 现在大德子28岁, 23 : 岁这一档的就没个靠谱的, 所以德子坚持搞三年还是有希望的。
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s****t 发帖数: 17096 | 20 为啥不可能,保守估计,小德能继续统治4到5年
除非受伤
【在 l********e 的大作中提到】 : 世界第一的周数还差134,能破才怪,年终还差3年,更是不可能的 : : all : GOAT
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s****t 发帖数: 17096 | 21 这更说明了老德能成
因为老费已经这么老了还能维持状态如此,几代球王都是能在晚期还能保持不错的竞技
状态。那些因为身体原因情变性情等也当不了球王
如果老德四年后能像老费现在这样,那么关键就来了,那个时候根本没有像现在小德一
样的人去阻击老去的小德
小德依然能拿大满贯
【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】 : 最近两次和老费比都是3:1,说明两人还是很接近的。 : 另外德子的game倚赖体力,如果身体出一点毛病,成就就会下降,豆子就是例子。 : 综合看各种风险,德子超过老费的可能性几乎为零。
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n*********e 发帖数: 25274 | 22 德粉们清醒地看到,今年除了法网,澳网,老德的抽签都不错。
今后几年,能夺多少满贯,还是要看运气,先别把老德捧上天,先拿到11个再说12个。 |
b**********s 发帖数: 9531 | 23 同意德子今年签运好,特别是美网。我过去分析过,德子的路数是气总,在大满贯里,
能支撑2场硬仗,如果签表给他3个高手,德子就不行了。而且随着年龄增大,以后能不
能支撑2场硬仗还不好说。
【在 n*********e 的大作中提到】 : 德粉们清醒地看到,今年除了法网,澳网,老德的抽签都不错。 : 今后几年,能夺多少满贯,还是要看运气,先别把老德捧上天,先拿到11个再说12个。
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 24 嗯,你的这个气宗、剑宗说确实是一针见血,可以得个诺奖。。。
【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】 : 同意德子今年签运好,特别是美网。我过去分析过,德子的路数是气总,在大满贯里, : 能支撑2场硬仗,如果签表给他3个高手,德子就不行了。而且随着年龄增大,以后能不 : 能支撑2场硬仗还不好说。
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M*******p 发帖数: 5626 | 25 我德是气宗,我费是剑宗?
还有,不管是谁,如果夺冠路上有小德,老费,僵尸,纳豆,瓦瓦里面的三人(如果是
他们自己要夺冠,那么就是他们几个之间的四人),夺冠概率肯定大大降低。这样一想
,法网小德没拿到也差不多是必然了。其实除了体力,精神层面也不能忽略,因为他们
之间的比赛双方肯定都要打起12分精神,这样打到决赛精神上面难免有些疲了,谁打鸡
血也不能连着几天吧?
【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】 : 同意德子今年签运好,特别是美网。我过去分析过,德子的路数是气总,在大满贯里, : 能支撑2场硬仗,如果签表给他3个高手,德子就不行了。而且随着年龄增大,以后能不 : 能支撑2场硬仗还不好说。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 26 太搞了,25岁的Nick搞33岁的老德是见一次灭一次的。24岁的Coric和老德
对扑也是一样。
老费34岁还能蹦达是因为他是进攻大炮。pusher 34么,参见纳豆。
【在 s****t 的大作中提到】 : 这更说明了老德能成 : 因为老费已经这么老了还能维持状态如此,几代球王都是能在晚期还能保持不错的竞技 : 状态。那些因为身体原因情变性情等也当不了球王 : 如果老德四年后能像老费现在这样,那么关键就来了,那个时候根本没有像现在小德一 : 样的人去阻击老去的小德 : 小德依然能拿大满贯
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f**********g 发帖数: 1056 | 27 史上最均衡的选手在你嘴里居然成了pusher了。
汗。。。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : 太搞了,25岁的Nick搞33岁的老德是见一次灭一次的。24岁的Coric和老德 : 对扑也是一样。 : 老费34岁还能蹦达是因为他是进攻大炮。pusher 34么,参见纳豆。
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s***e 发帖数: 7166 | 28 纳达尔是均衡型选手???
【在 f**********g 的大作中提到】 : 史上最均衡的选手在你嘴里居然成了pusher了。 : 汗。。。
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s****t 发帖数: 17096 | 29 krygios? 啥时候灭过老德
他何来的自信五年后灭老德?
krygios就这脾性,能混到五年后不能还是一回事
你们把32,33的实力想的太弱了,28和33的差别没有那么大
35就另当别论了,所以五年后小德拿不拿大满贯,老费肯定是早就不在了。。。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : 太搞了,25岁的Nick搞33岁的老德是见一次灭一次的。24岁的Coric和老德 : 对扑也是一样。 : 老费34岁还能蹦达是因为他是进攻大炮。pusher 34么,参见纳豆。
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s****t 发帖数: 17096 | 30 他说的是纳豆,但即使是纳豆,也不是pusher啊
历史上pusher只有穆雷一个,嘿嘿
【在 f**********g 的大作中提到】 : 史上最均衡的选手在你嘴里居然成了pusher了。 : 汗。。。
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c******s 发帖数: 2163 | 31 豆子可不是pusher, 似乎每球要打winner, 西蒙那才是正规的pusher。 |
d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 32 不能同意更多
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : 太搞了,25岁的Nick搞33岁的老德是见一次灭一次的。24岁的Coric和老德 : 对扑也是一样。 : 老费34岁还能蹦达是因为他是进攻大炮。pusher 34么,参见纳豆。
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 33 大家对pusher的定义不同,这个没什么好说的,老肯定义比较极端,只要你不是暴力男
你就是pusher, 所以大多数pro 都是pusher。
【在 s****t 的大作中提到】 : 他说的是纳豆,但即使是纳豆,也不是pusher啊 : 历史上pusher只有穆雷一个,嘿嘿
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f**********g 发帖数: 1056 | 34 豆子知道居然有人这么说他,得气坏了吧?!
他天下第一的暴力上旋居然都可以被定义成pusher了。
这个比德子更那个,汗。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : 大家对pusher的定义不同,这个没什么好说的,老肯定义比较极端,只要你不是暴力男 : 你就是pusher, 所以大多数pro 都是pusher。
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g*****y 发帖数: 7271 | 35 看来大家对暴力的定义还真是不一样。以后大家都是暴力男,暴力上旋,暴力下旋,暴
力lob,暴力drop,哈哈
【在 f**********g 的大作中提到】 : 豆子知道居然有人这么说他,得气坏了吧?! : 他天下第一的暴力上旋居然都可以被定义成pusher了。 : 这个比德子更那个,汗。
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