o***s
发帖数: 575 | 1 个人收入20W或家庭收入25W以上都会受影响。估计大多数硅工们都满足条件吧。
The provision, tucked deep inside the 155-page jobs legislation Obama
submitted to Congress on Sept. 12, would make health plans provided by
employers partially taxable for couples earning more than $250,000 a year
and individuals earning more than $200,000.
The insurance proposal included in the jobs package would affect taxpayers
in the top brackets starting in 2013. That year, under the administration’s
assumption that lower tax rates for high earners passed under President
George W. Bush are allowed to expire, someone in the 36 percent bracket with
a $10,000 health-insurance policy would be required to pay an additional $
800. Someone in the 39.6 percent bracket with a $20,000 policy would pay an
extra $2,320. |
z***8
发帖数: 461 | |
l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 3 Outdated system:
Employers sponsor health insurance.
It's unfair.
’s
with
【在 o***s 的大作中提到】
: 个人收入20W或家庭收入25W以上都会受影响。估计大多数硅工们都满足条件吧。
: The provision, tucked deep inside the 155-page jobs legislation Obama
: submitted to Congress on Sept. 12, would make health plans provided by
: employers partially taxable for couples earning more than $250,000 a year
: and individuals earning more than $200,000.
: The insurance proposal included in the jobs package would affect taxpayers
: in the top brackets starting in 2013. That year, under the administration’s
: assumption that lower tax rates for high earners passed under President
: George W. Bush are allowed to expire, someone in the 36 percent bracket with
: a $10,000 health-insurance policy would be required to pay an additional $
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m*****y
发帖数: 2424 | 4 Who says life is fair? Get over it and get a job.
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】
: Outdated system:
: Employers sponsor health insurance.
: It's unfair.
:
: ’s
: with
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l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 5 employer sponsored health insurance:
1. employee can not change job at will, for example, from full time to
contractor
2. be careful to join a small start-up, because if the company disappears,
no CORBA plan.
3. Most important, there is no practical way for self-employed worker to buy
health insuranec.
Health insurance system in USA is outdated, maybe 100 years ago, it was
advanced. Today, no other civilized country has this kind of system
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: Who says life is fair? Get over it and get a job.
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a*s
发帖数: 1220 | 6 美国的医疗保险没有100年历史，当时也不算是先进。
buy
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】
: employer sponsored health insurance:
: 1. employee can not change job at will, for example, from full time to
: contractor
: 2. be careful to join a small start-up, because if the company disappears,
: no CORBA plan.
: 3. Most important, there is no practical way for self-employed worker to buy
: health insuranec.
: Health insurance system in USA is outdated, maybe 100 years ago, it was
: advanced. Today, no other civilized country has this kind of system
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d******8
发帖数: 1795 | 7 US should copy the Chinese health insurance system. It is sponsored by the
government and the individuals, which is way better. For people with low
income, the government takes larger portion of the bill. For people with
high income, they take care of their health cost themselves.
The health insurance cost should never be imposed at the employer side. I am
a employer and I endorse this message. |
m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 8 can you say the same toward salaries? wouldn't it be great, as an employer,
that the government pays your employee's salaries? you'd just make money,
and don't worry about little things like writing a paycheck.
am
【在 d******8 的大作中提到】
: US should copy the Chinese health insurance system. It is sponsored by the
: government and the individuals, which is way better. For people with low
: income, the government takes larger portion of the bill. For people with
: high income, they take care of their health cost themselves.
: The health insurance cost should never be imposed at the employer side. I am
: a employer and I endorse this message.
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h**d
发帖数: 5161 | 9 O8 真是没出息。先让有钱人跟我们中产同等实际税率是正经。 |
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 10 that means he should lower middle class tax rate.
now!
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】
: O8 真是没出息。先让有钱人跟我们中产同等实际税率是正经。
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l*******y
发帖数: 862 | 11 20W or 25W is after deductable.
According to saraly.com, 75% of senior 硅工make 115k or less. So, 75% of 硅
工们 will not pay more tax. |
l**t
发帖数: 6971 | |
B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 13 个人收入20W或家庭收入25W以上的
斤斤计较这点钱吗？
根据税负公平原则，医疗保险原来就不该免税
医改是收入的一部分
因为目前的免税，让医疗费用严重脱离市场经济
大家不选最适当的，选一个最贵的
不是吗？ |
n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 14 你不知道百万小黑屋房东的辛酸
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: 个人收入20W或家庭收入25W以上的
: 斤斤计较这点钱吗？
: 根据税负公平原则，医疗保险原来就不该免税
: 医改是收入的一部分
: 因为目前的免税，让医疗费用严重脱离市场经济
: 大家不选最适当的，选一个最贵的
: 不是吗？
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n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 15 笨妇难为无米之炊
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
: 这TMD是谁给他出的馊主意啊。。。
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G*M
发帖数: 6042 | 16 我不计较这点钱，但凭什么最富有的人实际税率比中产低？税法确实不合理，但是O8同
学为什么首先想到的是给实际税率最高的中产加税？
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: 个人收入20W或家庭收入25W以上的
: 斤斤计较这点钱吗？
: 根据税负公平原则，医疗保险原来就不该免税
: 医改是收入的一部分
: 因为目前的免税，让医疗费用严重脱离市场经济
: 大家不选最适当的，选一个最贵的
: 不是吗？
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 17 你买百万的房子，地税一年交多少？1万2以上吧？
全家4口回国一次，就要6000 以上的飞机票
花这种大钱不在乎
为了税负公平，你不应该负点责任？
叫什么？
【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: 你不知道百万小黑屋房东的辛酸
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G****s
发帖数: 3523 | 18
I thought you supported his bill
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
: 这TMD是谁给他出的馊主意啊。。。
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n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 19 睡的是60块的床垫，惨啊。
买了百万房死撑，已经为国家做贡献了，很大很大。
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: 你买百万的房子，地税一年交多少？1万2以上吧？
: 全家4口回国一次，就要6000 以上的飞机票
: 花这种大钱不在乎
: 为了税负公平，你不应该负点责任？
: 叫什么？
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n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 20 不在于谁税率高，在于谁是软柿子。
【在 G*M 的大作中提到】
: 我不计较这点钱，但凭什么最富有的人实际税率比中产低？税法确实不合理，但是O8同
: 学为什么首先想到的是给实际税率最高的中产加税？
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 21 中产阶级，永远是软柿子
千古不变的定律
【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: 不在于谁税率高，在于谁是软柿子。
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a*******d
发帖数: 4846 | 22 employer部分还可以税前抵扣吗？
’s
with
【在 o***s 的大作中提到】
: 个人收入20W或家庭收入25W以上都会受影响。估计大多数硅工们都满足条件吧。
: The provision, tucked deep inside the 155-page jobs legislation Obama
: submitted to Congress on Sept. 12, would make health plans provided by
: employers partially taxable for couples earning more than $250,000 a year
: and individuals earning more than $200,000.
: The insurance proposal included in the jobs package would affect taxpayers
: in the top brackets starting in 2013. That year, under the administration’s
: assumption that lower tax rates for high earners passed under President
: George W. Bush are allowed to expire, someone in the 36 percent bracket with
: a $10,000 health-insurance policy would be required to pay an additional $
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l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 23
Not this part...
不过这部分肯定过不了的。民主党内部都不会同意的。
【在 G****s 的大作中提到】
:
: I thought you supported his bill
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 24 lopt 你老可要坚定一点啊
饿死事小，失节事大
呵呵 |
l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 25
我老最实际。对我有好处的（包括短时没好处但是长期有好处）就支持，没好处就反对
。
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: lopt 你老可要坚定一点啊
: 饿死事小，失节事大
: 呵呵
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n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 26 每个人都是这样。不过好处坏处你未必看得准。
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
:
: 我老最实际。对我有好处的（包括短时没好处但是长期有好处）就支持，没好处就反对
: 。
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m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 27 叫对自己负责. 让别人都去死吧.
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: 你买百万的房子，地税一年交多少？1万2以上吧？
: 全家4口回国一次，就要6000 以上的飞机票
: 花这种大钱不在乎
: 为了税负公平，你不应该负点责任？
: 叫什么？
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s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 28 双职工只有离婚一条路了。
’s
with
【在 o***s 的大作中提到】
: 个人收入20W或家庭收入25W以上都会受影响。估计大多数硅工们都满足条件吧。
: The provision, tucked deep inside the 155-page jobs legislation Obama
: submitted to Congress on Sept. 12, would make health plans provided by
: employers partially taxable for couples earning more than $250,000 a year
: and individuals earning more than $200,000.
: The insurance proposal included in the jobs package would affect taxpayers
: in the top brackets starting in 2013. That year, under the administration’s
: assumption that lower tax rates for high earners passed under President
: George W. Bush are allowed to expire, someone in the 36 percent bracket with
: a $10,000 health-insurance policy would be required to pay an additional $
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 29 他的意思其实是,千错万错都是别人的错,今上O8英明一世,只是误听谗言.
嘿嘿...
发信人: Grapes (老葡萄), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Re: O8要给硅工们的医疗保险加税了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 15 22:24:05 2011, 美东)
I thought you supported his bill
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
: 这TMD是谁给他出的馊主意啊。。。
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i**p
发帖数: 940 | 30 obama不敢加资本利得税，老是拿靠工资过活的人开刀。妈的还不如bush。
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: 双职工只有离婚一条路了。
:
: ’s
: with
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 31 离！
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: 双职工只有离婚一条路了。
:
: ’s
: with
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 32 风骨，气节，就这么丢到垃圾桶了！！
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
:
: 我老最实际。对我有好处的（包括短时没好处但是长期有好处）就支持，没好处就反对
: 。
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 33 Bush 花大钱，让你的子子孙孙背上巨大的债务
能看远一点吗?
【在 i**p 的大作中提到】
: obama不敢加资本利得税，老是拿靠工资过活的人开刀。妈的还不如bush。
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 34 你的收入是 lower middle class?
你有这么差吗？
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: that means he should lower middle class tax rate.
: now!
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