S****e
发帖数: 931 | 1 觉得买fang代理buyer agent 和买家buyer的利益相反，还不如自己买房。若懂些房地
产知识，不用代理买房，可以让卖方降价3%吗？
另外，若自己买房，怎样和贷款经济人合作把贷款拿到手呢？
若自己买房，具体怎样操作呢？
多谢！ |
B********r
发帖数: 2787 | 2 买房用不用经纪，和拿贷款不搭界吧
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 觉得买fang代理buyer agent 和买家buyer的利益相反，还不如自己买房。若懂些房地
: 产知识，不用代理买房，可以让卖方降价3%吗？
: 另外，若自己买房，怎样和贷款经济人合作把贷款拿到手呢？
: 若自己买房，具体怎样操作呢？
: 多谢！
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s*********3
发帖数: 2890 | 3 如果您是首次买房，或是对买房没有什么经验，或是太忙，还是请自己的经纪比较好；
如果您对买房非常有经验，并且有时间，愿意自己做研究，也可以自己买房。 买房和
贷款是二个不同的业务。您可以另外找loan agent。 TA不会问你有没有realtor的。
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 觉得买fang代理buyer agent 和买家buyer的利益相反，还不如自己买房。若懂些房地
: 产知识，不用代理买房，可以让卖方降价3%吗？
: 另外，若自己买房，怎样和贷款经济人合作把贷款拿到手呢？
: 若自己买房，具体怎样操作呢？
: 多谢！
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k**1
发帖数: 1955 | 4 I did not use buyer's agent. |
t****u
发帖数: 8614 | 5 nod.
如果自己对market非常了解的话，并愿意自己花时间research，不需要buyer agent.
【在 s*********3 的大作中提到】
: 如果您是首次买房，或是对买房没有什么经验，或是太忙，还是请自己的经纪比较好；
: 如果您对买房非常有经验，并且有时间，愿意自己做研究，也可以自己买房。 买房和
: 贷款是二个不同的业务。您可以另外找loan agent。 TA不会问你有没有realtor的。
|
S****e
发帖数: 931 | |
S****e
发帖数: 931 | |
S****e
发帖数: 931 | |
s****s
发帖数: 2163 | 9 以你的帖子而言。你似乎基本不懂什么房地产买卖的知识。所以建议你先自己看看房，
自己考个房地产执照再说。
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 觉得买fang代理buyer agent 和买家buyer的利益相反，还不如自己买房。若懂些房地
: 产知识，不用代理买房，可以让卖方降价3%吗？
: 另外，若自己买房，怎样和贷款经济人合作把贷款拿到手呢？
: 若自己买房，具体怎样操作呢？
: 多谢！
|
S****e
发帖数: 931 | 10 Thank you all.
To Mia and Tongxu: since you didn't use buyer agent, is the sold price 3%
off the listing price? Was seller agent willing to sell the house to you
since you don't have a buyer agent? |
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s****s
发帖数: 2163 | 11 tonyxu自己就是AGENT。
首先，这里的COMMISSION一般是2.5%。不是3%.
其次，你如果没有AGENT， 那么SELLER'S AGENT自动是DUAL AGENT。 至于他能不能，愿不愿把给你的COMMISSION 从房价里减下来，要看他愿不愿意，他的BROKER收多少，愿不愿意。和SELLER关系到不大。这个要CASE BY CASE来谈。
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: Thank you all.
: To Mia and Tongxu: since you didn't use buyer agent, is the sold price 3%
: off the listing price? Was seller agent willing to sell the house to you
: since you don't have a buyer agent?
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s*****m
发帖数: 8094 | 12 可以自己看房，最后买还是需要代理的，自己没法搞。
如果用seller agent做buyer agent有一定的风险，而且不会给你3％，2％顶天了把。
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 觉得买fang代理buyer agent 和买家buyer的利益相反，还不如自己买房。若懂些房地
: 产知识，不用代理买房，可以让卖方降价3%吗？
: 另外，若自己买房，怎样和贷款经济人合作把贷款拿到手呢？
: 若自己买房，具体怎样操作呢？
: 多谢！
|
a******h
发帖数: 51 | |
k***f
发帖数: 264 | 14 没代理，怎么看房？
【在 a******h 的大作中提到】
: mark
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u******k
发帖数: 355 | 15 Your risk of losing money on bad investment is much much bigger than the
commission, which is not much after you got the rebate. Why not seek help
from professionals?
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 觉得买fang代理buyer agent 和买家buyer的利益相反，还不如自己买房。若懂些房地
: 产知识，不用代理买房，可以让卖方降价3%吗？
: 另外，若自己买房，怎样和贷款经济人合作把贷款拿到手呢？
: 若自己买房，具体怎样操作呢？
: 多谢！
|
j*******t
发帖数: 123 | 16 我自己看40-70万的房子的时候，没有AGENT真的不行，好多BANK OWN, SHORT SALE的
没AGENT就得不停找LISTING AGENT, 很多人不愿合作。
但是朋友看100-140万的房子，倒是基本上OPEN HOUSE都能COVER。
不过，看100-140万的房子的LISTING AGENT好像多很牛，不给BUYER多少REBATE.
而50-70万的房子的AGENT, 特别是买的不好的，到很愿意给我REBATE， 但最多是2%。
有一个就直接说，如果是dual agent， BROKER要分两千，SELLER会少给他一点。他要
交500的INSURANCE, 其他可以都给我。
一年多前的经历，最后还是找个了AGENT。觉得还是有个AGENT好。
【在 k***f 的大作中提到】
: 没代理，怎么看房？
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x**x
发帖数: 123 | 17 这我就不理解了。What's the risk of losing money on bad investment? Title
company解决了房子title相关问题，买房的时候inspection保证了你会看到房子里
里外外大大小小的所有问题，redfin提供了所有的成交纪录和房价趋势。有什么risk
是没有agent我们就无法承受的么?
【在 u******k 的大作中提到】
: Your risk of losing money on bad investment is much much bigger than the
: commission, which is not much after you got the rebate. Why not seek help
: from professionals?
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k***f
发帖数: 264 | 18 risk是胡扯。要是觉得有法律问题，花五百刀让律师看一下合同就行了。
关键是看房的问题。
【在 x**x 的大作中提到】
: 这我就不理解了。What's the risk of losing money on bad investment? Title
: company解决了房子title相关问题，买房的时候inspection保证了你会看到房子里
: 里外外大大小小的所有问题，redfin提供了所有的成交纪录和房价趋势。有什么risk
: 是没有agent我们就无法承受的么?
|
u******k
发帖数: 355 | 19 The difference of loss during the 2008 downturn could be as much as 20W,
depends on where you buy. Also agents knows better in the schools and
neighborhoods.
YMYD
【在 x**x 的大作中提到】
: 这我就不理解了。What's the risk of losing money on bad investment? Title
: company解决了房子title相关问题，买房的时候inspection保证了你会看到房子里
: 里外外大大小小的所有问题，redfin提供了所有的成交纪录和房价趋势。有什么risk
: 是没有agent我们就无法承受的么?
|
j*******t
发帖数: 123 | 20 同意，我觉得大的INVESTMENT要看自己。
AGENT的经验最多能多给你保证不OVER BID太多。最多就能保证1-2%而已。这个其实自
己对市场了解的话也不会很差。
其实主要的还是成交过程中很多问题你要有人问。我看了一下，我成交过程中给AGENT
些了20+信，每天都打电话问问题20分钟左右。
【在 x**x 的大作中提到】
: 这我就不理解了。What's the risk of losing money on bad investment? Title
: company解决了房子title相关问题，买房的时候inspection保证了你会看到房子里
: 里外外大大小小的所有问题，redfin提供了所有的成交纪录和房价趋势。有什么risk
: 是没有agent我们就无法承受的么?
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d*******r
发帖数: 1831 | 21 不用代理买房，可以让卖方降价3%，这是什么逻辑？
有没有买方代理都可以要求卖方降价啊。
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 觉得买fang代理buyer agent 和买家buyer的利益相反，还不如自己买房。若懂些房地
: 产知识，不用代理买房，可以让卖方降价3%吗？
: 另外，若自己买房，怎样和贷款经济人合作把贷款拿到手呢？
: 若自己买房，具体怎样操作呢？
: 多谢！
|
k**1
发帖数: 1955 | 22 Couple benifts:
1. much easier to win bidding;
2. get bigger rebate from list agent
disadvantages:
need to call each list agent if you want to see many houses.
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: Thank you all.
: To Mia and Tongxu: since you didn't use buyer agent, is the sold price 3%
: off the listing price? Was seller agent willing to sell the house to you
: since you don't have a buyer agent?
|
S****e
发帖数: 931 | 23 Mia, how much was the rebate that you got from listing agent?
How much lower was the sold price than listing price? Thanks. |
c******n
发帖数: 4965 | 24 this is total BS
both buyer agents and seller agents have the goal to sell you houses.
they would never say: "hmm the market is going to be down, you should wait a
few months"
the most they will do is to choose between the various areas under the
CURRENT market.
when I looked in late 2007 and early 2008, the agent was already wrapping up
her professional life, and bought a home in hawaii, and planned to leave
the trade after working with me. she apparently knows that the market is
going down hill, but she never mentions that to me.
【在 u******k 的大作中提到】
: The difference of loss during the 2008 downturn could be as much as 20W,
: depends on where you buy. Also agents knows better in the schools and
: neighborhoods.
: YMYD
|
S****e
发帖数: 931 | 25 各位大佬，若自己在熟悉的区看房，本区房市早已心中有数，只要有有房子的检查报告
即可。若找个买方代理，每看一个多说好，而且催着加价，他好快点拿到佣金，买家不
是都烦死了，要这样代理有何用？还不愿意和卖家讲价。 |
c******n
发帖数: 4965 | 26 true
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 各位大佬，若自己在熟悉的区看房，本区房市早已心中有数，只要有有房子的检查报告
: 即可。若找个买方代理，每看一个多说好，而且催着加价，他好快点拿到佣金，买家不
: 是都烦死了，要这样代理有何用？还不愿意和卖家讲价。
|
u******k
发帖数: 355 | 27 You can keep the BS to yourself, hehe.
My agent was much better. I was interested in a 90W house, but he persuaded
me to buy a much lower priced one mentioned that is more inline with my
budget and in better location. I saved a lot of money on that.
Do not think all agents are only interested in your pennies. Some of them
are interested doing the right thing for their customers.
Many agents are very professional and decent.
a
up
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: this is total BS
: both buyer agents and seller agents have the goal to sell you houses.
: they would never say: "hmm the market is going to be down, you should wait a
: few months"
: the most they will do is to choose between the various areas under the
: CURRENT market.
: when I looked in late 2007 and early 2008, the agent was already wrapping up
: her professional life, and bought a home in hawaii, and planned to leave
: the trade after working with me. she apparently knows that the market is
: going down hill, but she never mentions that to me.
|
j*******t
发帖数: 123 | 28 好的AGENT是不会“催着加价”的。我觉得他们的PERSONAL SKILL应该比较高。可能还
是会PUSH， 但你感觉不到。或者比较comfortable的PUSH。至于和卖家讲价，应该任何
一个AGENT都会做。不然他们怎么拿得到。
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 各位大佬，若自己在熟悉的区看房，本区房市早已心中有数，只要有有房子的检查报告
: 即可。若找个买方代理，每看一个多说好，而且催着加价，他好快点拿到佣金，买家不
: 是都烦死了，要这样代理有何用？还不愿意和卖家讲价。
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S****e
发帖数: 931 | 29 Justguest, are you an agent or have you used a good agent? |
S****e
发帖数: 931 | 30 “好的”代理不催着加价？若有多个噢副儿，若不加价用什么办法可以抢到房子？ |
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k***f
发帖数: 264 | 31 答案是不抢，在熊市里出高价，非要跟一些笨人去抢，是代理的阴谋。
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: “好的”代理不催着加价？若有多个噢副儿，若不加价用什么办法可以抢到房子？
|
f*****i
发帖数: 3558 | 32 re。。就像自己去上班，也不是每个人都是指望少干点多挣点。。一般的人都还是希望
自己worthy of the pay，都还是有一个一般的“良心”或者道德良知的。。。当然每
行里面都有不professional的
自己最知道自己的需要，就是指望agent提供个professional意见，在房子和房子比较
的时候，什么好什么坏，什么样是能拿到的最低的价格。。。而最后买不买房，买什么
样的房，offer多少价格，都还是自己定夺的。。。agent又有没办法逼你签字。。。碰
到不好的agent，就换呗，换到一个professional的就好了
persuaded
【在 u******k 的大作中提到】
: You can keep the BS to yourself, hehe.
: My agent was much better. I was interested in a 90W house, but he persuaded
: me to buy a much lower priced one mentioned that is more inline with my
: budget and in better location. I saved a lot of money on that.
: Do not think all agents are only interested in your pennies. Some of them
: are interested doing the right thing for their customers.
: Many agents are very professional and decent.
:
: a
: up
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S****e
发帖数: 931 | 33 若已经和代理签了合同，中途可以换代理吗？合同多长时间有效？有“at will"的合同
吗？多谢 |
m**x
发帖数: 245 | 34 Looks like you need more one agents to help you based on your questions, and
you are wondering whether you need ONE, LOL.
AFAICT, you can not change if you signed a contract. Usually the contract is
for 3 month. A contract without time limit is invalid.
For me, I avoid any agents who ask for a contract. 99% Chinese agents don't
need a contract.
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 若已经和代理签了合同，中途可以换代理吗？合同多长时间有效？有“at will"的合同
: 吗？多谢
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s*********3
发帖数: 2890 | 35 No. The price is not the only term in contract. There are many tacks we can
use in the real estate practice, like more DPM or all cash, less than 30
days closing, AS-IS purchase, No contingency purchase, many more...
In some case, these terms are more powerful than offer price.
Check it out!
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: “好的”代理不催着加价？若有多个噢副儿，若不加价用什么办法可以抢到房子？
|
p***e
发帖数: 1318 | 36 -- If buying a new construction from builders, no agent needed.
If the seller doesn't negotiate -- that is very rare these days
-- but does give agent commission, then just call a few agents
give them <=0.5% or a couple k, and pick the one with the
lowest cost.
-- Contrary to what they claim, agents do not have many tricks.
Paying cash or not is not something that agents can help you
with. "As Is" or not, that is something you can learn quickly
if you are determined.
-- Most chinese agents have poor connections (aka English).
They are extremely bad in competition. The only good thing
is that they can be cheap. But sometimes they can ruin your
buying opportunities.
-- Using seller's agent can get you a competitive edge but be
careful as well.
-- If you are going after short sale, you almost have to use
the seller's agent.
Take every advice with a grain of salt, including the above.
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 觉得买fang代理buyer agent 和买家buyer的利益相反，还不如自己买房。若懂些房地
: 产知识，不用代理买房，可以让卖方降价3%吗？
: 另外，若自己买房，怎样和贷款经济人合作把贷款拿到手呢？
: 若自己买房，具体怎样操作呢？
: 多谢！
|
S****e
发帖数: 931 | 37 "99% Chinese agents don't
need a contract."? Do you mean "99% chinese agents didn't sign contract"? Is
it true? |
m**x
发帖数: 245 | 38 You are a SB, and you know that.
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: -- If buying a new construction from builders, no agent needed.
: If the seller doesn't negotiate -- that is very rare these days
: -- but does give agent commission, then just call a few agents
: give them <=0.5% or a couple k, and pick the one with the
: lowest cost.
: -- Contrary to what they claim, agents do not have many tricks.
: Paying cash or not is not something that agents can help you
: with. "As Is" or not, that is something you can learn quickly
: if you are determined.
: -- Most chinese agents have poor connections (aka English).
|
h**********g
发帖数: 153 | 39 My experience.
1) buy new house.. never able to get commission out from builder for cash if
no agent. They normally agree to pay more upgrade.. But I don't need too
much upgrade, sometimes.
2) sometimes, in the case of short sale, listing agent won't get double
commission from lender if become dual agent. So, you use them just to
increase your chance to get the house, but money wise, it is better to have
your own agent if they gave rebate..
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: -- If buying a new construction from builders, no agent needed.
: If the seller doesn't negotiate -- that is very rare these days
: -- but does give agent commission, then just call a few agents
: give them <=0.5% or a couple k, and pick the one with the
: lowest cost.
: -- Contrary to what they claim, agents do not have many tricks.
: Paying cash or not is not something that agents can help you
: with. "As Is" or not, that is something you can learn quickly
: if you are determined.
: -- Most chinese agents have poor connections (aka English).
|
S****e
发帖数: 931 | 40 mvxx (Moving Forward), you are a SB and you knew that because you don't know
how to answer your own question.and the only thing you can do is to call
yourself SB.
You are more happy to call yourself SB than answering question unless you
want to answer the question. |
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s*********3
发帖数: 2890 | 41 We never ask to sign an contract with client in front.
But when we submit an offer for the buyer, we have to come with an AD form.
This is for that particular property only. Without this, listing agent won't
take the offer; loan agent can't start the loan process.
Is
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: "99% Chinese agents don't
: need a contract."? Do you mean "99% chinese agents didn't sign contract"? Is
: it true?
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S****e
发帖数: 931 | 42 I am talking about regular sale. I agree most Chinese agents don't have good
communication skills, but they are cheap. but usually native born agents
have good communication skills but they are expensive,which means they don't
give rebate, do they? |
f*****i
发帖数: 3558 | 43 some of them do too, but some of them don't.... Actually the most important
is whether agent can get the house for you and can get the house with
possible minimum price on that market. These are more important than rebate
in my view... If they save you 10K on the price, it is more than 5K rebate
they may give you back. Also if it is the agent you can trust, the whole
working process would be happier for you...If you are really against agent,
you can just hire agent to open house and write offer for you. With less
work they need to do for you, they usually give you a decent rebate. But you
will be on your own to compare and selecting houses. Some agents have
minimum commission fee though (meaning below that, they won't give any
rebate back)
good
't
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: I am talking about regular sale. I agree most Chinese agents don't have good
: communication skills, but they are cheap. but usually native born agents
: have good communication skills but they are expensive,which means they don't
: give rebate, do they?
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e********e
发帖数: 6961 | 44 没有agent，很多房你都进不去啊。。。
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 觉得买fang代理buyer agent 和买家buyer的利益相反，还不如自己买房。若懂些房地
: 产知识，不用代理买房，可以让卖方降价3%吗？
: 另外，若自己买房，怎样和贷款经济人合作把贷款拿到手呢？
: 若自己买房，具体怎样操作呢？
: 多谢！
|
S**********r
发帖数: 1410 | 45 对呀，术业有专攻，我个人觉得咱们工程师不如拿这时间多干点活，多拿点奖金，或跳
个槽，想想创业的Idea什么的。除非闲着也是闲着，或者想兼职做Agent的：-)
【在 e********e 的大作中提到】
: 没有agent，很多房你都进不去啊。。。
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S****e
发帖数: 931 | 46 若没有代理，给listing agent打电话就可以看房。 |
S**********r
发帖数: 1410 | 47 不见得理你
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: 若没有代理，给listing agent打电话就可以看房。
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s**********v
发帖数: 1379 | 48 的确有那么牛的， 但是根据经验，那样的房子不买也罢
【在 S**********r 的大作中提到】
: 不见得理你
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