a***n
发帖数: 1152 | 1 就是Voldemort到底死没死?
"一个活另一个也活"-- 我都被绕糊涂了.
就是说Harry死了Voltemort也会死,那么Harry活着Voltemort的soul/body一部分也活着?
他到底死没死? |
k***n
发帖数: 93 | 2 死了。哈里死不会直接导致lv死（只是魂器破了），不过lv不死哈里也死不了。但是lv
死了哈里却可以活着。
着?
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 就是Voldemort到底死没死?
: "一个活另一个也活"-- 我都被绕糊涂了.
: 就是说Harry死了Voltemort也会死,那么Harry活着Voltemort的soul/body一部分也活着?
: 他到底死没死?
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s*****s
发帖数: 12 | 3 那不就是小强以公理形式存在：小强不灭。灭了也不灭。不灭更不灭。谁灭都论不着他
灭。谁不灭都能保着他不灭……
那还用着绕了7本书搞个十几年的阴谋论兜那~~~~~~~~~~~~~~么大个圈子么
lv
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 死了。哈里死不会直接导致lv死（只是魂器破了），不过lv不死哈里也死不了。但是lv
: 死了哈里却可以活着。
:
: 着?
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x*********6
发帖数: 24 | 4 Yes, dead.
Before LV killed (or almost killed) HP in the forest, nobody can die because
each of them was carrying something that belong to the other one.
However LV attacked HP and forced him (with part of his soul) into King's
Cross ( a little like the train station in Matrix, which connects the two
worlds,living and dead). HP can remain alive (because above reason), but the
part of LV soul that HP carries was killed. From the time HP returned,
things has changed and HP gained some advantage: H
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 就是Voldemort到底死没死?
: "一个活另一个也活"-- 我都被绕糊涂了.
: 就是说Harry死了Voltemort也会死,那么Harry活着Voltemort的soul/body一部分也活着?
: 他到底死没死?
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c******j
发帖数: 87 | 5 (2) 不成立. After (1), 就是胜者为王败者为寇了。
Harry 选择死亡,从而成为 master of death，是因为他拥有 deathly hollow。
而最后他战胜LV，又是因为他成了 master of death。
LV 是否选择死亡，就无关紧要了。
because
the
【在 x*********6 的大作中提到】
: Yes, dead.
: Before LV killed (or almost killed) HP in the forest, nobody can die because
: each of them was carrying something that belong to the other one.
: However LV attacked HP and forced him (with part of his soul) into King's
: Cross ( a little like the train station in Matrix, which connects the two
: worlds,living and dead). HP can remain alive (because above reason), but the
: part of LV soul that HP carries was killed. From the time HP returned,
: things has changed and HP gained some advantage: H
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E******n
发帖数: 641 | 6 His analysis is right. Becoming "master of death" was not due to the reason
that he owned the deathly hallow, but because he's not afraid of death and
broke LV's connection with him first. Deathly hallows didn't make the owner
invincible: it depended on the owner.
【在 c******j 的大作中提到】
: (2) 不成立. After (1), 就是胜者为王败者为寇了。
: Harry 选择死亡,从而成为 master of death，是因为他拥有 deathly hollow。
: 而最后他战胜LV，又是因为他成了 master of death。
: LV 是否选择死亡，就无关紧要了。
:
: because
: the
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c******j
发帖数: 87 | 7 (2) only holds for Harry, but is not true for LV
reason
owner
【在 E******n 的大作中提到】
: His analysis is right. Becoming "master of death" was not due to the reason
: that he owned the deathly hallow, but because he's not afraid of death and
: broke LV's connection with him first. Deathly hallows didn't make the owner
: invincible: it depended on the owner.
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M*****t
发帖数: 26706 | |
T*******e
发帖数: 195 | 9 JKR显然是想说Voldemort彻底死了．
但那个闪电疤没疼过不说明任何问题，JKR写到最后明显头昏了．
当Voldemort在森林里第一次杀死Harry的时候，就把Harry体内的他的灵魂杀死了．
所以从那个时候起，Harry和Voldemort就没有了connection，这为彻底杀死Voldemort
提供了可能．同时Harry也再不可能通过这个疤痛不痛来感知Voldemort死没死．
【在 M*****t 的大作中提到】
: 死了，因为后来HP的闪电再也没疼过。
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x*********6
发帖数: 24 | 10 It is right.
No pain in the scar != LV deadly dead.
However, JKR was not trying to say LV was dead when she mentioned scar. She
was just saying it (the scar story) was over.
I guess she said it for 2 reasons:
(1) The story beginned with a scar, it should end with the scar too.
(2) No more stories for the 19 years. (just like the bible ends with a
warning that there should be no more.)
Voldemort
【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: JKR显然是想说Voldemort彻底死了．
: 但那个闪电疤没疼过不说明任何问题，JKR写到最后明显头昏了．
: 当Voldemort在森林里第一次杀死Harry的时候，就把Harry体内的他的灵魂杀死了．
: 所以从那个时候起，Harry和Voldemort就没有了connection，这为彻底杀死Voldemort
: 提供了可能．同时Harry也再不可能通过这个疤痛不痛来感知Voldemort死没死．
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x*********6
发帖数: 24 | 11 (2) true to LV too.
if LV wanted to kill HP, the only way is to let HP kill him, then arise
again with some other people's blood (he would not die because HP still
carried his horcurx), then kill HP.
【在 c******j 的大作中提到】
: (2) only holds for Harry, but is not true for LV
:
: reason
: owner
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