y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 1 10月18日：加拿大各大媒體這兩天報道了渥太華市的15歲男生傑米-休伯利（Jamie
Hubley）上周五自殺身亡的事件，同性戀的傑米因不堪忍受周遭環境中長時間的恐同歧
視欺凌而自殺，他生前在博客中寫下許多經歷和感受，表示感到無望。傑米所在中學本
周下半旗悼念。傑米的父親是渥太華市議員。
http://www.aibai.com/infoview.php?id=22731 | y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 2 Hubley said the bullying began when Jamie was in Grade 7 and teens tried
to stuff batteries down his throat on the school bus because he was a
figure skater.
"[Jamie] was the kind of boy that loved everybody," said Hubley, "He
couldn't understand why everyone would be so cruel to him about something as
simple as skating."
"He just wanted someone to love him. That's all. And what's wrong with
that? Why do people have to be cruel to our children when all they want to
do is be loved?" said Hubley, speaking on the phone with the CBC's Ashley
Burke.
In high school, the relentless teasing focused on the fact that Jamie was
openly gay.
Jamie Hubley died Saturday. A suicide note was posted on his online blog
where he spoke of his love for singing and pop music including Lady Gaga,
Adele, Katy Perry and Christina Aguilera.
The note also spoke of the pain from both bullying and depression.
"I'm tired of life, really. It's so hard, I'm sorry, I can't take it
anymore," his note read.
"I don't want my parents to think this is their fault, either. I love
my mom and dad. It's just too hard. I dont want to wait three more years,
this hurts too much."
The Kanata teenager also described how he hated being the only openly
gay boy in his school. His family had tried to help by moving him from a
Kanata Catholic high school to A.Y. Jackson Secondary School, which is a
public school.
Hubley had even spoken out for gay students at A.Y. Jackson through
the Rainbow Club, a gay-straight alliance. But the bullying did not stop and
there were no other openly gay teenagers at that school, either.
The Ottawa-Carleton District School Board released a statement Tuesday
sending its condolences to the Hubley family. It also spoke about bullying
in schools and how it could lead to depression.
“I couldn’t agree more about the importance of dealing with these
issues. These are complex issues that we have to deal with as a community”,
said Jennifer Adams, the board's director of education.
Local community opening up about teen suicide
Awareness of teen depression and mental health has grown in Ottawa
recently, particularly after the death of Daron Richardson, the 14-year-old
daughter of former NHLer Luke Richardson.
That death and a series of teen suicides in the Ottawa Valley in 2010
have forced communities to design better strategies to address the issue,
including identifying signs of depression earlier and removing the stigma
surrounding mental health issues.
Jamie Hubley struggled with depression for a long time, his father said, but
no matter how much his parents tried to help, the teen could not escape his
sadness.
"I lost a beautiful, beautiful child that was going to make the world a
better place. I've been involved in a lot of things in my community ... but
I couldn't fix my own boy and that's tearing me apart," Allan Hubley said.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2011/10/18/ottawa-te
| y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 3 Holy Redeemer Roman Catholic Church in Ottawa was packed to twice its
capacity for the funeral of 15-year-old Jamie Hubley, a gay teenager who
committed suicide after being bullied.
Family and friends who spoke during the service and outside afterwards
praised Hubley's efforts to make life better for other gay teens.
Jamie's friend, Luke Spiro, spoke in his eulogy about Hubley's desire
to create a club for gay teens at his high school, and outside the church
his family and friends said his work would not go unfinished.
Reaction to Hubley's death reaches Parliament, other teens
Hubley's suicide was also mentioned at the conclusion of question period in
the House of Commons Thursday.
Québec NDP MP Dany Morin asked the Conservatives what they were doing
to address the problem of harassment and bullying against gay teenagers.
"I know I would speak for all members of the House when I offer our
sincere condolences to the family of Jamie Hubley," said Ottawa West-Nepean
MP John Baird.
"Bullying, homophobia, intolerance and incivility have no place in our
schools. It underlies the real challenge of depression, mental health,
especially among young people."
Hubley's death has struck a chord with many gay teenagers across Canada
and even in the U.S. Many have posted tribute songs and videos online to
honour Hubley.
Thursday also marked Spirit Day across North America as many people wore
purple to show support for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual youth.
The family wants all donations to be made to the Youth Services Bureau of
Ottawa in honour of Jamie.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2011/10/20/ottawa-hu | p********i
发帖数: 1963 | 4 啊？加拿大不是总的还比较友同吗？是不时比美国友同？！
【在 y*****g 的大作中提到】
: 10月18日：加拿大各大媒體這兩天報道了渥太華市的15歲男生傑米-休伯利（Jamie
: Hubley）上周五自殺身亡的事件，同性戀的傑米因不堪忍受周遭環境中長時間的恐同歧
: 視欺凌而自殺，他生前在博客中寫下許多經歷和感受，表示感到無望。傑米所在中學本
: 周下半旗悼念。傑米的父親是渥太華市議員。
: http://www.aibai.com/infoview.php?id=22731
| Z*****l
发帖数: 14069 | 5 R.I.P.
【在 y*****g 的大作中提到】
: 10月18日：加拿大各大媒體這兩天報道了渥太華市的15歲男生傑米-休伯利（Jamie
: Hubley）上周五自殺身亡的事件，同性戀的傑米因不堪忍受周遭環境中長時間的恐同歧
: 視欺凌而自殺，他生前在博客中寫下許多經歷和感受，表示感到無望。傑米所在中學本
: 周下半旗悼念。傑米的父親是渥太華市議員。
: http://www.aibai.com/infoview.php?id=22731
| y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 6
这也要看在加拿大那一处地方而定啊 v_v
【在 p********i 的大作中提到】
: 啊？加拿大不是总的还比较友同吗？是不时比美国友同？！
| E*******F
发帖数: 2165 | 7 在青少年当中根本不应该宣传什么gay不gay的
更不应该鼓励他们“come out”
中国的中学也有一些行为女性化的男生，有时受到调侃
但没人说他们是同性恋，因为大家没有那种意识
所以他们的心理压力比被骂成同性恋的要小一些
因为他们认为自己以后还是正常人
特别是被同学骂成同性恋的，本身很多不是同性恋，甚至憎恨、惧怕同性恋
这样压力就更大了
加拿大搞开放搞出了格
居然让中学生同性恋come out
这才是害死他的真正原因
【在 y*****g 的大作中提到】
: 10月18日：加拿大各大媒體這兩天報道了渥太華市的15歲男生傑米-休伯利（Jamie
: Hubley）上周五自殺身亡的事件，同性戀的傑米因不堪忍受周遭環境中長時間的恐同歧
: 視欺凌而自殺，他生前在博客中寫下許多經歷和感受，表示感到無望。傑米所在中學本
: 周下半旗悼念。傑米的父親是渥太華市議員。
: http://www.aibai.com/infoview.php?id=22731
| m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 8 在中学生里连恋爱都不应该让他们知道
所有电影电视里只要有关恋爱情节的全部定为18+
幼儿园里也不要讲什么王子公主的故事
【在 E*******F 的大作中提到】
: 在青少年当中根本不应该宣传什么gay不gay的
: 更不应该鼓励他们“come out”
: 中国的中学也有一些行为女性化的男生，有时受到调侃
: 但没人说他们是同性恋，因为大家没有那种意识
: 所以他们的心理压力比被骂成同性恋的要小一些
: 因为他们认为自己以后还是正常人
: 特别是被同学骂成同性恋的，本身很多不是同性恋，甚至憎恨、惧怕同性恋
: 这样压力就更大了
: 加拿大搞开放搞出了格
: 居然让中学生同性恋come out
| m******8
发帖数: 2153 | 9 The problem is the opposite to what you think. This is just similar to blame
on a young beautiful woman who is raped on street because of her way she
dresses. | E*******F
发帖数: 2165 | 10 simple， naive
如果明明知道周围有很多暴力倾向的男人
还非要大半夜光着身子走
难道不是愚蠢的行为吗？
如果是父母让小女孩这样，则应该受到惩罚。
这不仅是谁对谁错的问题，而是practical的问题
不过那些gay维权人士是听不进去的
他们只知道到处宣扬自己的理念，青少年的死活最多是他们的筹码
blame
【在 m******8 的大作中提到】
: The problem is the opposite to what you think. This is just similar to blame
: on a young beautiful woman who is raped on street because of her way she
: dresses.
| | | y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 11
在上一个世纪，某些国家的确是行这样的政策。但现在资讯发达的年代, 不让青少
年和儿童知道又如何？随便地按一下便什么也可以搜出来。
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 在中学生里连恋爱都不应该让他们知道
: 所有电影电视里只要有关恋爱情节的全部定为18+
: 幼儿园里也不要讲什么王子公主的故事
| y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 12 关於 " 筹码 " 这个话题上 。。。
UNFAMILIAR FACES: REPUBLICANS DISPATCH IT GETS BETTER VIDEO
BY: CHRISTOPHER DONALDSON
10.25.2011
http://www.gay.net/news/2011/10/25/unfamiliar-faces-republicans
For as long as anyone can remember, Republicans have refused to
take any real interest in the It Gets Better video campaign.
It’s an oddity that more than a year later, the first three Republican
lawmakers of the New Jersey congressional delegation have just now decided
to join seven Democrats to offer their support to LGBT youth while also
championing enforcement solutions of anti-gay bullying.
According to The Advocate’s Lucas Grindley, the three GOP lawmakers are
Reps. Leonard lance, Frank LoBiondo, and Jon Runyan.
“We can’t completely eliminate bullying,” says LoBiondo, “but there are
actions we can take to make things better now.”
But Grindley points out that their “records aren’t exactly gay-friendly.”
For example, LoBiondo voted against repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell”
and for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.
In the most recent election, Lance beat challenger Ed Potosnak, who is gay,
and the two squared off in debates over Lance's support for "don't ask, don'
t tell." Still, the three promise, "it really does get better."
Is this tricky political strategizing or simply withering disdain for
America’s tormented youth? | L****l
发帖数: 594 | 13 这种类比很奇怪. 一个是明知是色狼还要上前凑; 一个是作为学生, 每天上学都有可能
被 bully, 躲都躲不开 (要是能躲开的话也就不会绝望到自杀了, 想一想, 他父亲是市
议员都保护不了他). 两者能一样吗? 照这样的逻辑, 减少 bully的最好办法是父母辞
职, 孩子退学, homeschool了.
【在 E*******F 的大作中提到】
: simple， naive
: 如果明明知道周围有很多暴力倾向的男人
: 还非要大半夜光着身子走
: 难道不是愚蠢的行为吗？
: 如果是父母让小女孩这样，则应该受到惩罚。
: 这不仅是谁对谁错的问题，而是practical的问题
: 不过那些gay维权人士是听不进去的
: 他们只知道到处宣扬自己的理念，青少年的死活最多是他们的筹码
:
: blame
| y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 14 10月18日：加拿大各大媒體這兩天報道了渥太華市的15歲男生傑米-休伯利（Jamie
Hubley）上周五自殺身亡的事件，同性戀的傑米因不堪忍受周遭環境中長時間的恐同歧
視欺凌而自殺，他生前在博客中寫下許多經歷和感受，表示感到無望。傑米所在中學本
周下半旗悼念。傑米的父親是渥太華市議員。
http://www.aibai.com/infoview.php?id=22731 | y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 15 Hubley said the bullying began when Jamie was in Grade 7 and teens tried
to stuff batteries down his throat on the school bus because he was a
figure skater.
"[Jamie] was the kind of boy that loved everybody," said Hubley, "He
couldn't understand why everyone would be so cruel to him about something as
simple as skating."
"He just wanted someone to love him. That's all. And what's wrong with
that? Why do people have to be cruel to our children when all they want to
do is be loved?" said Hubley, speaking on the phone with the CBC's Ashley
Burke.
In high school, the relentless teasing focused on the fact that Jamie was
openly gay.
Jamie Hubley died Saturday. A suicide note was posted on his online blog
where he spoke of his love for singing and pop music including Lady Gaga,
Adele, Katy Perry and Christina Aguilera.
The note also spoke of the pain from both bullying and depression.
"I'm tired of life, really. It's so hard, I'm sorry, I can't take it
anymore," his note read.
"I don't want my parents to think this is their fault, either. I love
my mom and dad. It's just too hard. I dont want to wait three more years,
this hurts too much."
The Kanata teenager also described how he hated being the only openly
gay boy in his school. His family had tried to help by moving him from a
Kanata Catholic high school to A.Y. Jackson Secondary School, which is a
public school.
Hubley had even spoken out for gay students at A.Y. Jackson through
the Rainbow Club, a gay-straight alliance. But the bullying did not stop and
there were no other openly gay teenagers at that school, either.
The Ottawa-Carleton District School Board released a statement Tuesday
sending its condolences to the Hubley family. It also spoke about bullying
in schools and how it could lead to depression.
“I couldn’t agree more about the importance of dealing with these
issues. These are complex issues that we have to deal with as a community”,
said Jennifer Adams, the board's director of education.
Local community opening up about teen suicide
Awareness of teen depression and mental health has grown in Ottawa
recently, particularly after the death of Daron Richardson, the 14-year-old
daughter of former NHLer Luke Richardson.
That death and a series of teen suicides in the Ottawa Valley in 2010
have forced communities to design better strategies to address the issue,
including identifying signs of depression earlier and removing the stigma
surrounding mental health issues.
Jamie Hubley struggled with depression for a long time, his father said, but
no matter how much his parents tried to help, the teen could not escape his
sadness.
"I lost a beautiful, beautiful child that was going to make the world a
better place. I've been involved in a lot of things in my community ... but
I couldn't fix my own boy and that's tearing me apart," Allan Hubley said.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2011/10/18/ottawa-te
| y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 16 Holy Redeemer Roman Catholic Church in Ottawa was packed to twice its
capacity for the funeral of 15-year-old Jamie Hubley, a gay teenager who
committed suicide after being bullied.
Family and friends who spoke during the service and outside afterwards
praised Hubley's efforts to make life better for other gay teens.
Jamie's friend, Luke Spiro, spoke in his eulogy about Hubley's desire
to create a club for gay teens at his high school, and outside the church
his family and friends said his work would not go unfinished.
Reaction to Hubley's death reaches Parliament, other teens
Hubley's suicide was also mentioned at the conclusion of question period in
the House of Commons Thursday.
Québec NDP MP Dany Morin asked the Conservatives what they were doing
to address the problem of harassment and bullying against gay teenagers.
"I know I would speak for all members of the House when I offer our
sincere condolences to the family of Jamie Hubley," said Ottawa West-Nepean
MP John Baird.
"Bullying, homophobia, intolerance and incivility have no place in our
schools. It underlies the real challenge of depression, mental health,
especially among young people."
Hubley's death has struck a chord with many gay teenagers across Canada
and even in the U.S. Many have posted tribute songs and videos online to
honour Hubley.
Thursday also marked Spirit Day across North America as many people wore
purple to show support for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual youth.
The family wants all donations to be made to the Youth Services Bureau of
Ottawa in honour of Jamie.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2011/10/20/ottawa-hu | p********i
发帖数: 1963 | 17 啊？加拿大不是总的还比较友同吗？是不时比美国友同？！
【在 y*****g 的大作中提到】
: 10月18日：加拿大各大媒體這兩天報道了渥太華市的15歲男生傑米-休伯利（Jamie
: Hubley）上周五自殺身亡的事件，同性戀的傑米因不堪忍受周遭環境中長時間的恐同歧
: 視欺凌而自殺，他生前在博客中寫下許多經歷和感受，表示感到無望。傑米所在中學本
: 周下半旗悼念。傑米的父親是渥太華市議員。
: http://www.aibai.com/infoview.php?id=22731
| Z*****l
发帖数: 14069 | 18 R.I.P.
【在 y*****g 的大作中提到】
: 10月18日：加拿大各大媒體這兩天報道了渥太華市的15歲男生傑米-休伯利（Jamie
: Hubley）上周五自殺身亡的事件，同性戀的傑米因不堪忍受周遭環境中長時間的恐同歧
: 視欺凌而自殺，他生前在博客中寫下許多經歷和感受，表示感到無望。傑米所在中學本
: 周下半旗悼念。傑米的父親是渥太華市議員。
: http://www.aibai.com/infoview.php?id=22731
| y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 19
这也要看在加拿大那一处地方而定啊 v_v
【在 p********i 的大作中提到】
: 啊？加拿大不是总的还比较友同吗？是不时比美国友同？！
| E*******F
发帖数: 2165 | 20 在青少年当中根本不应该宣传什么gay不gay的
更不应该鼓励他们“come out”
中国的中学也有一些行为女性化的男生，有时受到调侃
但没人说他们是同性恋，因为大家没有那种意识
所以他们的心理压力比被骂成同性恋的要小一些
因为他们认为自己以后还是正常人
特别是被同学骂成同性恋的，本身很多不是同性恋，甚至憎恨、惧怕同性恋
这样压力就更大了
加拿大搞开放搞出了格
居然让中学生同性恋come out
这才是害死他的真正原因
【在 y*****g 的大作中提到】
: 10月18日：加拿大各大媒體這兩天報道了渥太華市的15歲男生傑米-休伯利（Jamie
: Hubley）上周五自殺身亡的事件，同性戀的傑米因不堪忍受周遭環境中長時間的恐同歧
: 視欺凌而自殺，他生前在博客中寫下許多經歷和感受，表示感到無望。傑米所在中學本
: 周下半旗悼念。傑米的父親是渥太華市議員。
: http://www.aibai.com/infoview.php?id=22731
| | | m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 21 在中学生里连恋爱都不应该让他们知道
所有电影电视里只要有关恋爱情节的全部定为18+
幼儿园里也不要讲什么王子公主的故事
【在 E*******F 的大作中提到】
: 在青少年当中根本不应该宣传什么gay不gay的
: 更不应该鼓励他们“come out”
: 中国的中学也有一些行为女性化的男生，有时受到调侃
: 但没人说他们是同性恋，因为大家没有那种意识
: 所以他们的心理压力比被骂成同性恋的要小一些
: 因为他们认为自己以后还是正常人
: 特别是被同学骂成同性恋的，本身很多不是同性恋，甚至憎恨、惧怕同性恋
: 这样压力就更大了
: 加拿大搞开放搞出了格
: 居然让中学生同性恋come out
| m******8
发帖数: 2153 | 22 The problem is the opposite to what you think. This is just similar to blame
on a young beautiful woman who is raped on street because of her way she
dresses. | E*******F
发帖数: 2165 | 23 simple， naive
如果明明知道周围有很多暴力倾向的男人
还非要大半夜光着身子走
难道不是愚蠢的行为吗？
如果是父母让小女孩这样，则应该受到惩罚。
这不仅是谁对谁错的问题，而是practical的问题
不过那些gay维权人士是听不进去的
他们只知道到处宣扬自己的理念，青少年的死活最多是他们的筹码
blame
【在 m******8 的大作中提到】
: The problem is the opposite to what you think. This is just similar to blame
: on a young beautiful woman who is raped on street because of her way she
: dresses.
| y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 24
在上一个世纪，某些国家的确是行这样的政策。但现在资讯发达的年代, 不让青少
年和儿童知道又如何？随便地按一下便什么也可以搜出来。
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 在中学生里连恋爱都不应该让他们知道
: 所有电影电视里只要有关恋爱情节的全部定为18+
: 幼儿园里也不要讲什么王子公主的故事
| y*****g
发帖数: 1822 | 25 关於 " 筹码 " 这个话题上 。。。
UNFAMILIAR FACES: REPUBLICANS DISPATCH IT GETS BETTER VIDEO
BY: CHRISTOPHER DONALDSON
10.25.2011
http://www.gay.net/news/2011/10/25/unfamiliar-faces-republicans
For as long as anyone can remember, Republicans have refused to
take any real interest in the It Gets Better video campaign.
It’s an oddity that more than a year later, the first three Republican
lawmakers of the New Jersey congressional delegation have just now decided
to join seven Democrats to offer their support to LGBT youth while also
championing enforcement solutions of anti-gay bullying.
According to The Advocate’s Lucas Grindley, the three GOP lawmakers are
Reps. Leonard lance, Frank LoBiondo, and Jon Runyan.
“We can’t completely eliminate bullying,” says LoBiondo, “but there are
actions we can take to make things better now.”
But Grindley points out that their “records aren’t exactly gay-friendly.”
For example, LoBiondo voted against repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell”
and for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.
In the most recent election, Lance beat challenger Ed Potosnak, who is gay,
and the two squared off in debates over Lance's support for "don't ask, don'
t tell." Still, the three promise, "it really does get better."
Is this tricky political strategizing or simply withering disdain for
America’s tormented youth? | L****l
发帖数: 594 | 26 这种类比很奇怪. 一个是明知是色狼还要上前凑; 一个是作为学生, 每天上学都有可能
被 bully, 躲都躲不开 (要是能躲开的话也就不会绝望到自杀了, 想一想, 他父亲是市
议员都保护不了他). 两者能一样吗? 照这样的逻辑, 减少 bully的最好办法是父母辞
职, 孩子退学, homeschool了.
【在 E*******F 的大作中提到】
: simple， naive
: 如果明明知道周围有很多暴力倾向的男人
: 还非要大半夜光着身子走
: 难道不是愚蠢的行为吗？
: 如果是父母让小女孩这样，则应该受到惩罚。
: 这不仅是谁对谁错的问题，而是practical的问题
: 不过那些gay维权人士是听不进去的
: 他们只知道到处宣扬自己的理念，青少年的死活最多是他们的筹码
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: blame
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