T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | |
o****d
发帖数: 5454 | 2 瞎扯淡，不明白为啥这样的文章也能上Nature, 懂物理的审稿人都死光了吗，还是知识
断代了？
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-theorem-shakes-foundations-1
: What do you guys think about it?
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F**D
发帖数: 6472 | 3 具体说说
【在 o****d 的大作中提到】
: 瞎扯淡，不明白为啥这样的文章也能上Nature, 懂物理的审稿人都死光了吗，还是知识
: 断代了？
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 4 Co-ask LS.
【在 F**D 的大作中提到】
: 具体说说
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a****a
发帖数: 5763 | 5 看了arxiv上的paper没看明白
大概是像贝尔一样建了个不等式?
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-theorem-shakes-foundations-1
: What do you guys think about it?
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t**********m
发帖数: 205 | 6 Nottale's quantum gravity of solar system 就是把引力量子态当作物质密度：
http://rxiv.org/abs/1101.0076 |
T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 7 Thanks to acidia and truthmostcom for your responses. I do not major in
physics, could you explain a bit more?
Is that claim that the waveform function is real, but not a statistical
distribution, true?
【在 t**********m 的大作中提到】
: Nottale's quantum gravity of solar system 就是把引力量子态当作物质密度：
: http://rxiv.org/abs/1101.0076
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a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 8 shit. i always thought so.
for example, you solve the H-atom equation and get the ball shape electron
clound thing. one way to look at it is the electron dot moving around the
neuclei and looks like cloud. but this couldn't explain why no radiation.
saying it is quantum forbidden is simply not good enough.
to my view, the electron is just taking the cloud shape, no particle moving
around here. this thing just interacting with the external world in quantum
way.
so to describe the motion, it is always wave. the interaction, always
particle.
The Young's experiments could be explained as well.
with one slot, the thing taking one shape. with 2 slots, it taking a totally
different shape and of course not simply adding up but self-interference.
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-theorem-shakes-foundations-1
: What do you guys think about it?
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N**********n
发帖数: 34 | |
a****a
发帖数: 5763 | 10 这种解释代表着任何粒子都是非定域的
你觉得可以？
【在 N**********n 的大作中提到】
: 完全同意楼上！
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 11 "so to describe the motion, it is always wave. the interaction, always
particle."
Thanks for the explanation. Could you explain a bit more on your above
statement? Why does the interaction appear to be in some particle form?
cloud thing. one way to look at it is the electron dot moving around the
nuclei and looks like cloud. but this couldn't explain why no radiation.
moving around here. this thing just interacting with the external world in
quantum way.
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: shit. i always thought so.
: for example, you solve the H-atom equation and get the ball shape electron
: clound thing. one way to look at it is the electron dot moving around the
: neuclei and looks like cloud. but this couldn't explain why no radiation.
: saying it is quantum forbidden is simply not good enough.
: to my view, the electron is just taking the cloud shape, no particle moving
: around here. this thing just interacting with the external world in quantum
: way.
: so to describe the motion, it is always wave. the interaction, always
: particle.
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q********y
发帖数: 20 | 12 how about compton scatting? |
j*********g
发帖数: 3179 | 13 agree
moving
quantum
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: shit. i always thought so.
: for example, you solve the H-atom equation and get the ball shape electron
: clound thing. one way to look at it is the electron dot moving around the
: neuclei and looks like cloud. but this couldn't explain why no radiation.
: saying it is quantum forbidden is simply not good enough.
: to my view, the electron is just taking the cloud shape, no particle moving
: around here. this thing just interacting with the external world in quantum
: way.
: so to describe the motion, it is always wave. the interaction, always
: particle.
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