s****a
发帖数: 501 | 1 Nikon J1和V1还是个中翘楚吗？还是已经过时了？ |
g**********g
发帖数: 18118 | |
s****a
发帖数: 501 | 3 那就推荐几个吧?
【在 g**********g 的大作中提到】
: 从来就不是吧
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m***i
发帖数: 2480 | 4 olympus e-m5 with built in image stablizer
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: Nikon J1和V1还是个中翘楚吗？还是已经过时了？
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e**n
发帖数: 5876 | |
g**********g
发帖数: 18118 | |
s*****n
发帖数: 10890 | 7 这个机器啥特点？没见讨论过。比g3强在哪里？
【在 e**n 的大作中提到】
: Best ILC Ever
: GH3
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m*****n
发帖数: 511 | |
w*********g
发帖数: 10097 | 9 就是尺寸上稍微大了一点
【在 e**n 的大作中提到】
: Best ILC Ever
: GH3
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s********0
发帖数: 4152 | |
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w*********g
发帖数: 10097 | 11 和同样体积的相机比感光器小，画质差一些
和画质差不多的相机比，比如rx100，个头又大了
【在 s********0 的大作中提到】
: 泥坑的V1，J1差在哪里啊！？
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q*z
发帖数: 13362 | 12 V1如果msrp 就是$299,确实不差,
【在 s********0 的大作中提到】
: 泥坑的V1，J1差在哪里啊！？
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s********0
发帖数: 4152 | 13 价格比100低多了吧。。。
【在 w*********g 的大作中提到】
: 和同样体积的相机比感光器小，画质差一些
: 和画质差不多的相机比，比如rx100，个头又大了
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s********0
发帖数: 4152 | 14 NEX-5加狗头 250块还是很值的..
【在 q*z 的大作中提到】
: V1如果msrp 就是$299,确实不差,
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R***a
发帖数: 41892 | 15 J3 + 10-30 + 10mm双头套？
rx100可是比这俩镜头加起来光圈还大，焦段还广的
【在 s********0 的大作中提到】
: 价格比100低多了吧。。。
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p*********r
发帖数: 4593 | 16 The best part for V1/J1 or whatever Nikon 1 system models is
its fast autofocus, especially continuous auto focus. Its continuous auto
focus is as good those $2000-3000 level DSLRs.
EM5 is good at high ISO picture quality, but continuous auto focus sucks,
only is good at taking still subject photos. Not good for the moving
subjects and not good for video recording.
Sony RX100, even RX1, and NEX-5N/NEX-5R(all NEX series) have slow auto focus
, not good for the moving subjects too.
Overall, probably, GH3 is the best one for a all around mirrorless, but
price is 5X expensive. |
m***i
发帖数: 2480 | 17 how's e-m5 vs gh3?
focus
【在 p*********r 的大作中提到】
: The best part for V1/J1 or whatever Nikon 1 system models is
: its fast autofocus, especially continuous auto focus. Its continuous auto
: focus is as good those $2000-3000 level DSLRs.
: EM5 is good at high ISO picture quality, but continuous auto focus sucks,
: only is good at taking still subject photos. Not good for the moving
: subjects and not good for video recording.
: Sony RX100, even RX1, and NEX-5N/NEX-5R(all NEX series) have slow auto focus
: , not good for the moving subjects too.
: Overall, probably, GH3 is the best one for a all around mirrorless, but
: price is 5X expensive.
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p*********r
发帖数: 4593 | 18
I would buy GH3 for the video recording and continuous auto focus
performance if money is not your concern. Now GH3 is selling at list price,
and still hard to get it.
【在 m***i 的大作中提到】
: how's e-m5 vs gh3?
:
: focus
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w*********g
发帖数: 10097 | 19 我总听你说em5拍视频如何如何不行，前天看到这个视频对比，对比em5和nex7拍摄的视
频。em5因为有五轴防抖的原因拍摄视频的抖动小了许多，运动中拍摄视频成功率提高
了太多
http://v.pconline.com.cn/video-12672.html
我不知道你总说的em5视频不行是指哪个方面不行，有没有对比测试看一下
还有你反复提到过无数次的v1/j1的对焦可以和2000-3000刀的DSLR比肩，那就差不多是
和D800或者5D III的对焦一样了是吧？有测评可以证明这一点吗？纯求教
focus
【在 p*********r 的大作中提到】
: The best part for V1/J1 or whatever Nikon 1 system models is
: its fast autofocus, especially continuous auto focus. Its continuous auto
: focus is as good those $2000-3000 level DSLRs.
: EM5 is good at high ISO picture quality, but continuous auto focus sucks,
: only is good at taking still subject photos. Not good for the moving
: subjects and not good for video recording.
: Sony RX100, even RX1, and NEX-5N/NEX-5R(all NEX series) have slow auto focus
: , not good for the moving subjects too.
: Overall, probably, GH3 is the best one for a all around mirrorless, but
: price is 5X expensive.
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w*********g
发帖数: 10097 | 20 你可以去店里拿来看一下两台机器就有判断了.....
【在 m***i 的大作中提到】
: how's e-m5 vs gh3?
:
: focus
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p*********r
发帖数: 4593 | 21
Go to dpreview to check the performance section for V1 and EM5.
Here is another review talking about its performance.
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/11/14/the-nikon-v1-camera-re
Another interesting Chinese review site having auto focus test video for 7
mirrorless. EM5/V1/GX1 almost have the same auto focus speed(faster than
others), dpreview said that EM5 has problem with continuous autofocus.
http://dc.pconline.com.cn/pingce/evil/1211/3085571_5.html
【在 w*********g 的大作中提到】
: 我总听你说em5拍视频如何如何不行，前天看到这个视频对比，对比em5和nex7拍摄的视
: 频。em5因为有五轴防抖的原因拍摄视频的抖动小了许多，运动中拍摄视频成功率提高
: 了太多
: http://v.pconline.com.cn/video-12672.html
: 我不知道你总说的em5视频不行是指哪个方面不行，有没有对比测试看一下
: 还有你反复提到过无数次的v1/j1的对焦可以和2000-3000刀的DSLR比肩，那就差不多是
: 和D800或者5D III的对焦一样了是吧？有测评可以证明这一点吗？纯求教
:
: focus
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e**n
发帖数: 5876 | 22 和em5一样的sensor, 摄像功能是所有相机里最好的, 没有之一.
老版gh2的解析度就轻松超越5dIII
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 这个机器啥特点？没见讨论过。比g3强在哪里？
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w*********g
发帖数: 10097 | 23 你贴的链接只能说明v1的对焦速度和em5还有gx1在一个档次上，怎么能证明你说的v1的
对焦和2000-3000刀的dslr一样呢？如果v1的对焦并没有像你所说的远远超过em5或者
gx1，那就无法说明为什么v1是一台更值得推荐的微单了，因为你的论点是基于“v1的
对焦远好于其他微单，以至于可以和2000-3000刀的单反比肩”这个前提上的
【在 p*********r 的大作中提到】
:
: Go to dpreview to check the performance section for V1 and EM5.
: Here is another review talking about its performance.
: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/11/14/the-nikon-v1-camera-re
: Another interesting Chinese review site having auto focus test video for 7
: mirrorless. EM5/V1/GX1 almost have the same auto focus speed(faster than
: others), dpreview said that EM5 has problem with continuous autofocus.
: http://dc.pconline.com.cn/pingce/evil/1211/3085571_5.html
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g**********g
发帖数: 18118 | 24 EM5视频的时候经常从新对焦， 不知道是我的机器毛病还是都是这样。 非常烦人的。 |
p*********r
发帖数: 4593 | 25
Tell me which DSLRs can do 10 and 15 FPS continuous autofocus shoting, and
what price range ?
The reviewer, Steve Huff mentioned that V1 never missed focus for him with
thousands of shots taken.
【在 w*********g 的大作中提到】
: 你贴的链接只能说明v1的对焦速度和em5还有gx1在一个档次上，怎么能证明你说的v1的
: 对焦和2000-3000刀的dslr一样呢？如果v1的对焦并没有像你所说的远远超过em5或者
: gx1，那就无法说明为什么v1是一台更值得推荐的微单了，因为你的论点是基于“v1的
: 对焦远好于其他微单，以至于可以和2000-3000刀的单反比肩”这个前提上的
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w*********g
发帖数: 10097 | 26 问题在于相机的对焦性能并不单纯是连拍一项，而且会购买革命机的用户群有几个人真
的需要10 and 15 FPS continuous autofocus？
【在 p*********r 的大作中提到】
:
: Tell me which DSLRs can do 10 and 15 FPS continuous autofocus shoting, and
: what price range ?
: The reviewer, Steve Huff mentioned that V1 never missed focus for him with
: thousands of shots taken.
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p*********r
发帖数: 4593 | 27
Your argument is kind of 狡辩. I also can use your argument to apply to
* picture quality at high ISO.
* high megapixel number picture
* shallow depth of field.
Anyhow, all above are the important aspects for a good camera. So far, there
is no camera is good in all aspects. I only said the Nikon 1 system auto
focus, continuous auto focus is as good as many $2000-3000 level camera.
This aspect is very important to take good quality pictures for the moving
subjects, such as sports, kids, and animals. This aspect may not be
important to some people, also could be may be very important to some people
.
【在 w*********g 的大作中提到】
: 问题在于相机的对焦性能并不单纯是连拍一项，而且会购买革命机的用户群有几个人真
: 的需要10 and 15 FPS continuous autofocus？
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w*********g
发帖数: 10097 | 28 你说v1比em5等机器更值得推荐的理由是好的多的对焦和视频（和2000－3000刀的单反
一样好），因此即使画质差个头大都可以无视了。但是你的测评数据却显示对焦上em5=
v1=GX1, 然后为了justify你的说法，就又拉出来10 and 15 FPS continuous
autofocus shoting。问题就是对焦并不只又10 fps一项参数，更别说你没有举出实例
证明v1的视频比em5好很多 （比如我举例的视频里显示的em5的五轴防抖对手持拍摄视
频的意义）
而且对于多数使用革命机的人群，超高速连拍的意义本来就没有画质和便携尺寸的重要
性大，真正需要高速连拍比如体育摄影的人也多半会考虑DSLR。所以你举出的这个唯一
的参数根本无法justify为什么v1就更值得推荐了。
自己喜欢什么机器是你自己的事情，我只是认为如果你要用一个非常extreme的理由“
v1的对焦极好，可以和2000-3000的单反比肩所以值得推荐”来反复推荐一台相机，就
必须要有足够的证据支持。别人推荐时提到的高感画质，五轴防抖都是有直接对比图可
以证明的。
there
people
【在 p*********r 的大作中提到】
:
: Your argument is kind of 狡辩. I also can use your argument to apply to
: * picture quality at high ISO.
: * high megapixel number picture
: * shallow depth of field.
: Anyhow, all above are the important aspects for a good camera. So far, there
: is no camera is good in all aspects. I only said the Nikon 1 system auto
: focus, continuous auto focus is as good as many $2000-3000 level camera.
: This aspect is very important to take good quality pictures for the moving
: subjects, such as sports, kids, and animals. This aspect may not be
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p*********r
发帖数: 4593 | 29 I never say V1 更值得推荐了. I only said the best part for V1 in my first
reply. Nikon 1 system 更值得推荐 if you want fast autofocus, continuous
autofocus and the video, and the price. It is the fact that V1 can do 10FPS,
V2 can do 15FPS(full resolution) continuous auto focus. That is the strong
point that Nikon 1 system has.
EM5 is top at picture quality, still picture quality at high ISO. It has
fast autofocus, but not good at continuous autofocus. That's the fact and
conclusion from most of professional review. EM5 is a good camera, no doubt
about this, but it has weakness too.
I only said one aspect that EM5 is not good, but V1 is good. Then, you are
kind of start useless 狡辩. Here is the link shows the video sharpness
comparison among V1,V2, EM5 and NEX-5R. Go back read more pro review before
arguing here.
http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Nikon-V2-Digital-Camer
em5=
【在 w*********g 的大作中提到】
: 你说v1比em5等机器更值得推荐的理由是好的多的对焦和视频（和2000－3000刀的单反
: 一样好），因此即使画质差个头大都可以无视了。但是你的测评数据却显示对焦上em5=
: v1=GX1, 然后为了justify你的说法，就又拉出来10 and 15 FPS continuous
: autofocus shoting。问题就是对焦并不只又10 fps一项参数，更别说你没有举出实例
: 证明v1的视频比em5好很多 （比如我举例的视频里显示的em5的五轴防抖对手持拍摄视
: 频的意义）
: 而且对于多数使用革命机的人群，超高速连拍的意义本来就没有画质和便携尺寸的重要
: 性大，真正需要高速连拍比如体育摄影的人也多半会考虑DSLR。所以你举出的这个唯一
: 的参数根本无法justify为什么v1就更值得推荐了。
: 自己喜欢什么机器是你自己的事情，我只是认为如果你要用一个非常extreme的理由“
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w*********g
发帖数: 10097 | 30 本来跟你好好说话，一次又一次骂我狡辩，多说无益到此为止
10FPS,
strong
doubt
【在 p*********r 的大作中提到】
: I never say V1 更值得推荐了. I only said the best part for V1 in my first
: reply. Nikon 1 system 更值得推荐 if you want fast autofocus, continuous
: autofocus and the video, and the price. It is the fact that V1 can do 10FPS,
: V2 can do 15FPS(full resolution) continuous auto focus. That is the strong
: point that Nikon 1 system has.
: EM5 is top at picture quality, still picture quality at high ISO. It has
: fast autofocus, but not good at continuous autofocus. That's the fact and
: conclusion from most of professional review. EM5 is a good camera, no doubt
: about this, but it has weakness too.
: I only said one aspect that EM5 is not good, but V1 is good. Then, you are
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