y****u
发帖数: 50 | 1 if you make some novel polymers with novel properties...
can you also make some fortune? |
x*o
发帖数: 1037 | 2 depends on how novel the material is.
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: if you make some novel polymers with novel properties...
: can you also make some fortune?
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y****u
发帖数: 50 | 3 suppose it is very attractive.
is it possible to start a business?
or how to contact the industries?
【在 x*o 的大作中提到】
: depends on how novel the material is.
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x*o
发帖数: 1037 | 4 don't know,
but I guess at least you should get it patented.
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: suppose it is very attractive.
: is it possible to start a business?
: or how to contact the industries?
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 5 not novel, but useful...
【在 x*o 的大作中提到】
: depends on how novel the material is.
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y****u
发帖数: 50 | 6 it is true.
sometimes I think in this way:
novel materials-->novel properties-->new applications
it really depends on the imagination of polymer chemists.
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: not novel, but useful...
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x********o
发帖数: 132 | 7 sure you can.
apply for a patent and then try to find some VC and sell your patent.
go to StartUp Club of this bbs. see if somebody interested in your invention.
I know there are some people looking for projects to invest.
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: if you make some novel polymers with novel properties...
: can you also make some fortune?
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a***n
发帖数: 578 | 8 The applications are most important. What potential applications and markets
are? VC won't care and don't understand how fancy the material is. Show them
what your material can do and where the market is.
For example, if you have a new material maybe 5% better than current
commerialized material, none will be interested to put huge money to start up
a business with you. But surely a lot of companies will buy this patent.
But if your material is much better, let us say, more than 50% better than
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: if you make some novel polymers with novel properties...
: can you also make some fortune?
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t***m
发帖数: 114 | 9 no, if 50% better than commerlized one, sell them immediately and
ask for both cash and stock share. the former is immeidate
earning of your work, the
latter is the return of your brilliant idea about the material if
it is.
who can guarantee this 50% better will not be nothing tomorrow.
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: The applications are most important. What potential applications and markets
: are? VC won't care and don't understand how fancy the material is. Show them
: what your material can do and where the market is.
: For example, if you have a new material maybe 5% better than current
: commerialized material, none will be interested to put huge money to start up
: a business with you. But surely a lot of companies will buy this patent.
: But if your material is much better, let us say, more than 50% better than
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a***n
发帖数: 578 | 10 obviously you don't have any ideas about patents and enterprise.
If you only have a patent, the general price you sell is about 5K-20K.
But you have a startup by this patent, the price is at least multi-millions.
Another possibility is to sell license of patent. Then it will depend on the
income of product made by this patent. Generally it is about 1%-5%.
Ask your boss about this.
^^^^^^^^^^^ it is a dream. Supposed that a global
giant company wants to buy your patent (m
【在 t***m 的大作中提到】
: no, if 50% better than commerlized one, sell them immediately and
: ask for both cash and stock share. the former is immeidate
: earning of your work, the
: latter is the return of your brilliant idea about the material if
: it is.
: who can guarantee this 50% better will not be nothing tomorrow.
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y****u
发帖数: 50 | 11 if the research is sponsored by a company:
the boss wants publication, so the company wants to have it patented first.
what is the relationship between the professor, student, university and
company?
I guess it is like this: the patent will belong to university; the university
will take care of the patenting affairs; the company will purchase the license
from the university; the university will distribute the benefits. is it right?
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: obviously you don't have any ideas about patents and enterprise.
: If you only have a patent, the general price you sell is about 5K-20K.
: But you have a startup by this patent, the price is at least multi-millions.
: Another possibility is to sell license of patent. Then it will depend on the
: income of product made by this patent. Generally it is about 1%-5%.
: Ask your boss about this.
:
: ^^^^^^^^^^^ it is a dream. Supposed that a global
: giant company wants to buy your patent (m
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a***n
发帖数: 578 | 12 partially correct.
If company support the research, it has priority to own the license (not buy
it) and has right to ask you not sell to its competitor (but it can't monoploy
the license selling unless the company pay price to buy the patent).
The university own the certain percent of that patent (more than 90%). you and
your boss own remaining percent. So that you and your boss can have some
benefit if university sell the license to other companies.
However, if you setup a startup by this paten
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: if the research is sponsored by a company:
: the boss wants publication, so the company wants to have it patented first.
: what is the relationship between the professor, student, university and
: company?
: I guess it is like this: the patent will belong to university; the university
: will take care of the patenting affairs; the company will purchase the license
: from the university; the university will distribute the benefits. is it right?
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a***n
发帖数: 578 | 13 Curious, by the way, what kind of novel properties does your target material
have?
university
license
right?
multi-millions.
the
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: if the research is sponsored by a company:
: the boss wants publication, so the company wants to have it patented first.
: what is the relationship between the professor, student, university and
: company?
: I guess it is like this: the patent will belong to university; the university
: will take care of the patenting affairs; the company will purchase the license
: from the university; the university will distribute the benefits. is it right?
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t***m
发帖数: 114 | 14 the problem is you don't have that multi-millions to startup your business
what I told should be similiar with the one your mentioned "sell liccense
of patent".
my boss's story is just like this:-) he sold his patent(maybe the license
of the patent) to Bayer, and Bayer sponsored a small company, he was the
advisor and member of the director board. he harvested a lot from this,
both fortune and fame.
right after his patent, another guy got the same thing from similar route.
that is what I want to
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: Curious, by the way, what kind of novel properties does your target material
: have?
:
: university
: license
: right?
: multi-millions.
: the
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t***m
发帖数: 114 | 15 we got exactly the same thing in our lab.
some post dr. from china, they got promising results and filed papers already,
but the sponser AGFA obviously prefer patent first.
the poor guy thus has to stay here for one more year.
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: if the research is sponsored by a company:
: the boss wants publication, so the company wants to have it patented first.
: what is the relationship between the professor, student, university and
: company?
: I guess it is like this: the patent will belong to university; the university
: will take care of the patenting affairs; the company will purchase the license
: from the university; the university will distribute the benefits. is it right?
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t***m
发帖数: 114 | 16 as I know, sometimes both your name the boss will appear
as the aurthors of the patent
but that does not necessarily mean you are also benefiter
of the patent.
in chinese that is 署名权 and 受益人
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: if the research is sponsored by a company:
: the boss wants publication, so the company wants to have it patented first.
: what is the relationship between the professor, student, university and
: company?
: I guess it is like this: the patent will belong to university; the university
: will take care of the patenting affairs; the company will purchase the license
: from the university; the university will distribute the benefits. is it right?
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y****u
发帖数: 50 | 17 if I work things out but can't reap benefit,
"intellectual property" sounds ridiculous.
【在 t***m 的大作中提到】
: as I know, sometimes both your name the boss will appear
: as the aurthors of the patent
: but that does not necessarily mean you are also benefiter
: of the patent.
: in chinese that is 署名权 and 受益人
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a***n
发帖数: 578 | 18 I believe in US law, the names on the patent have equilvant right on the
patents. So don't worry.
China's law sounds ridiculous at that part.
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: if I work things out but can't reap benefit,
: "intellectual property" sounds ridiculous.
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