B*****G
发帖数: 50 | 1 大家都在说PHD阿，原文是doctorate degree,JD 还有MD算吗？ | m******t
发帖数: 4077 | 2
no bah。但是有DSc. 我觉得应该算。
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: 大家都在说PHD阿，原文是doctorate degree,JD 还有MD算吗？
| B*****G
发帖数: 50 | 3 这是一个新问题?不知道doctorate degree怎么定义的。The term doctorate comes
from the Latin docere, meaning "to teach." 至少JD读完了在美国就可以去法学院
当教授了。
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:
: no bah。但是有DSc. 我觉得应该算。
| m*******n
发帖数: 1214 | 4 u need Doctor of Science of Law (JSD) to teach not JD. Two totally different
things
【在 B*****G 的大作中提到】
: 这是一个新问题?不知道doctorate degree怎么定义的。The term doctorate comes
: from the Latin docere, meaning "to teach." 至少JD读完了在美国就可以去法学院
: 当教授了。
| c*****4
发帖数: 1777 | 5 我觉得MD不算。MD相当于“本科”。只是从医的基础学位。没有任何教学或研究性质。
【在 B*****G 的大作中提到】
: 大家都在说PHD阿，原文是doctorate degree,JD 还有MD算吗？
| J*******A
发帖数: 8401 | 6 里面好像有提到physician哦
这个是啥？
【在 c*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得MD不算。MD相当于“本科”。只是从医的基础学位。没有任何教学或研究性质。
| B*****G
发帖数: 50 | 7 不懂就不要乱说好吧？随便搜一个哈佛法学院教授:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/index.html?id=4
different
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: u need Doctor of Science of Law (JSD) to teach not JD. Two totally different
: things
| B*****G
发帖数: 50 | 8 自己去找，有几个有JSD的。
http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/professors.html
different
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: u need Doctor of Science of Law (JSD) to teach not JD. Two totally different
: things
| B*****G
发帖数: 50 | 9 MD不懂，但是其实JD也只是第一个法学学位。。。但是绝大多数法学院教授就是JD。
【在 c*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得MD不算。MD相当于“本科”。只是从医的基础学位。没有任何教学或研究性质。
| m*******n
发帖数: 1214 | 10 dude you have no idea what you are talking about, all those are old faculty.
In today's standard JSD is almost required unless you graduated from HYS.
And by definition JSD is the Ph.D degree of law.JD is only professional
training in law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Juridical_Science
【在 B*****G 的大作中提到】
: 自己去找，有几个有JSD的。
: http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/professors.html
:
: different
| | | a***n
发帖数: 3633 | 11 在美国，法学医学都是研究生教育。就是先有了其他的本科学历，才能
作为法学院医学院的新生开始学习。所以MD/JD当作研究生学位是合理的。
中国直接有本科级的法学医学科目，所以有人从中沾光。不过不能
因此把JD/MD降级为本科学位。
【在 B*****G 的大作中提到】
: MD不懂，但是其实JD也只是第一个法学学位。。。但是绝大多数法学院教授就是JD。
| B*****G
发帖数: 50 | 12 I don't have to argue with you. LOL wiki works for you huh? You want young
guys? here are some:
http://law.fordham.edu/faculty/seanjgriffith.htm
http://law.fordham.edu/faculty/youngjaelee.htm
BTW i am not saying everyone with a JD would easily land a job as law prof.
You said in your post "unless from HYS" right? So you admit JDs from HYS
have ok chance? don't make conclusion if you don't know. qualify your
statement before you post.
faculty.
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: dude you have no idea what you are talking about, all those are old faculty.
: In today's standard JSD is almost required unless you graduated from HYS.
: And by definition JSD is the Ph.D degree of law.JD is only professional
: training in law.
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Juridical_Science
| m*******n
发帖数: 1214 | 13 wrong, not sure about medical field, But in law field, JD is only
professional training equivalent to another Bachelor. The first graduate
lever degree in law is LLM. So Bachelor(JD), Master(LLM), Ph.D(JSD) is the
natural sequence in the law field. But due to its practical nature of the
subject, you can teach other people after you received JD. School often hire
famous lawyers to teach students.
Doctor of Juridical Science, Doctor of the Science of Law, (in Latin)
Scientiae Juridicae Doctor (sometimes also referred to as a Doctor of Laws),
abbreviated J.S.D. or S.J.D., is a research doctorate in law[1] and
equivalent to the Ph.D.[2][3] It is offered primarily in the United States,
where it originated, and in Canada. As a research doctorate, it follows
professional training in law (LL.B. or J.D.) and the first graduate-level
training in law (LL.M.), and is primarily aimed at training professors,
legal scientists, and other scholars in law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Juridical_Science
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 在美国，法学医学都是研究生教育。就是先有了其他的本科学历，才能
: 作为法学院医学院的新生开始学习。所以MD/JD当作研究生学位是合理的。
: 中国直接有本科级的法学医学科目，所以有人从中沾光。不过不能
: 因此把JD/MD降级为本科学位。
| B*****G
发帖数: 50 | 14 and don't be so cocky. I don't know what i am talking about? lol you assume
i don't know what JSD is? I just started a discussion re. JD/MD would be
considered as "doctorate degree" for the purpose of the proposed new law,
and stated that JD could teach at law school. how eager you are to show off
your knowledge... lame...
hire
),
,
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: wrong, not sure about medical field, But in law field, JD is only
: professional training equivalent to another Bachelor. The first graduate
: lever degree in law is LLM. So Bachelor(JD), Master(LLM), Ph.D(JSD) is the
: natural sequence in the law field. But due to its practical nature of the
: subject, you can teach other people after you received JD. School often hire
: famous lawyers to teach students.
: Doctor of Juridical Science, Doctor of the Science of Law, (in Latin)
: Scientiae Juridicae Doctor (sometimes also referred to as a Doctor of Laws),
: abbreviated J.S.D. or S.J.D., is a research doctorate in law[1] and
: equivalent to the Ph.D.[2][3] It is offered primarily in the United States,
| m*******n
发帖数: 1214 | 15 You are the one asking question, I am just here to educate you ignorant. And
somehow you got pissed off for your utter stupidity.
assume
off
【在 B*****G 的大作中提到】
: and don't be so cocky. I don't know what i am talking about? lol you assume
: i don't know what JSD is? I just started a discussion re. JD/MD would be
: considered as "doctorate degree" for the purpose of the proposed new law,
: and stated that JD could teach at law school. how eager you are to show off
: your knowledge... lame...
:
: hire
: ),
: ,
| B*****G
发帖数: 50 | 16 hehe, so no words or argument and started personal attack? I made no
conclusion rather than saying JD could teach, and you jumped out to say no,
and I showed your evidence which drives you mad. best joke for my day here.
And
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: You are the one asking question, I am just here to educate you ignorant. And
: somehow you got pissed off for your utter stupidity.
:
: assume
: off
| a***n
发帖数: 3633 | 17 不好意思，在你给的wiki的连接上，没有发现说JD是本科学位的话。
在关于JD的解说页面上，倒是有这么一句话
Juris Doctor (see etymology and abbreviations below) is a professional
doctorate[1][2][3][4][5][6] and in some countries a first professional[7][8]
graduate degree[9][10][11] in law, obtained, in the United States and other
countries, by attending law school.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juris_Doctor#Creation_of_the_J.D._
我想这个很清楚了吧？关于和大陆法学学位之间不同导致的歧义，wiki也说明了。
J.D.'s are not generally awarded in the People's Republic of China (P.R.C.)
instead，a J.M.(Juris Magister) is awarded as the counterpart of JD in the
United States, the professional degree in law in China.[115] The primary law
degree in the P.R.C. is the bachelor of law.
原因就在于法学，医学在美国是研究生教育，没有什么本科生。如果想要上，得要
别处拿个本科学位先。第一个法学/医学学位自然就是研究生学位。而中国
有本科制的法学医学科目。所以可以有本科级的学位。
hire
),
,
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: wrong, not sure about medical field, But in law field, JD is only
: professional training equivalent to another Bachelor. The first graduate
: lever degree in law is LLM. So Bachelor(JD), Master(LLM), Ph.D(JSD) is the
: natural sequence in the law field. But due to its practical nature of the
: subject, you can teach other people after you received JD. School often hire
: famous lawyers to teach students.
: Doctor of Juridical Science, Doctor of the Science of Law, (in Latin)
: Scientiae Juridicae Doctor (sometimes also referred to as a Doctor of Laws),
: abbreviated J.S.D. or S.J.D., is a research doctorate in law[1] and
: equivalent to the Ph.D.[2][3] It is offered primarily in the United States,
| a***n
发帖数: 3633 | 18 真是开卷有益啊。
在Bachelor of Laws (LLB)条目下解释到
The United States is the only common law country that no longer offers the
LL.B. While the LL.B. was conferred until 1971 at Yale University, since
that time, all universities in the United States have awarded the
professional doctorate J.D.,[2] which then became the generally standardized
degree in most states for the necessary bar exam prior to practice of law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Laws
看来是老美自绝于世界，在70年代就取消了法学本科教育，全部转为研究生教育。
我猜这也是大家产生不同理解的一个原因吧？
hire
),
,
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: wrong, not sure about medical field, But in law field, JD is only
: professional training equivalent to another Bachelor. The first graduate
: lever degree in law is LLM. So Bachelor(JD), Master(LLM), Ph.D(JSD) is the
: natural sequence in the law field. But due to its practical nature of the
: subject, you can teach other people after you received JD. School often hire
: famous lawyers to teach students.
: Doctor of Juridical Science, Doctor of the Science of Law, (in Latin)
: Scientiae Juridicae Doctor (sometimes also referred to as a Doctor of Laws),
: abbreviated J.S.D. or S.J.D., is a research doctorate in law[1] and
: equivalent to the Ph.D.[2][3] It is offered primarily in the United States,
| B*****G
发帖数: 50 | 19 是啊。不过现在很多国家号称要学习美国，保留LLB但是同时offer类似JD的学位。
其实主要区别是JD是professional degree, SJD/JSD是research degree，俩不一样的
track。
standardized
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 真是开卷有益啊。
: 在Bachelor of Laws (LLB)条目下解释到
: The United States is the only common law country that no longer offers the
: LL.B. While the LL.B. was conferred until 1971 at Yale University, since
: that time, all universities in the United States have awarded the
: professional doctorate J.D.,[2] which then became the generally standardized
: degree in most states for the necessary bar exam prior to practice of law.
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Laws
: 看来是老美自绝于世界，在70年代就取消了法学本科教育，全部转为研究生教育。
: 我猜这也是大家产生不同理解的一个原因吧？
| B*****G
发帖数: 50 | 20 另外如果楼上对wiki这么喜欢的话，可以看看这个条目
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_doctorate#Professiona
里面对doctorate degree的解释。
不管怎么说, 解释法律的权利在法院（参考国会的legislative intent），我们最多就
是在这里讨论讨论了。
【在 B*****G 的大作中提到】
: 是啊。不过现在很多国家号称要学习美国，保留LLB但是同时offer类似JD的学位。
: 其实主要区别是JD是professional degree, SJD/JSD是research degree，俩不一样的
: track。
:
: standardized
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