p***e
发帖数: 29053 | 1 去掉名额限制，长期是弊大于利啊。。。。比如2009年后的，用自己名额可以等3年基
本OK了。没有自
己名额，全世界的名额都给A3吃掉，加上EB3I--EB2I蝗虫的数量（取消limit，会让
EB3i打鸡血的转
EB2）。绝对大于3年，而且还是unpredictable的 |
j******0
发帖数: 558 | 2 I agree
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 去掉名额限制，长期是弊大于利啊。。。。比如2009年后的，用自己名额可以等3年基
: 本OK了。没有自
: 己名额，全世界的名额都给A3吃掉，加上EB3I--EB2I蝗虫的数量（取消limit，会让
: EB3i打鸡血的转
: EB2）。绝对大于3年，而且还是unpredictable的
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b***y
发帖数: 554 | 3 how do you know the immigration trend in the long term? I think your
comment is very self-serving.
For the benefit of the Chinese worldwide, we should encourage more
immigration from China. eliminating the quota allows a larger potential
Chinese population in the US in the long run. Chinese immigrants are at
a disadvantage compares to the Indians because the number of immigrants
is smaller, and to fundamentally solve this problem, we should make the
US more attractive to the Chinese.
In addition, the reason that currently Chinese gets less spill over is
not because the US discriminates against the Chinese, but because there
are fewer Chinese professionals interested in moving to the US. All in
all, more immigrants from China will be positive for the chinese people
and eliminating country quota will be a positive step for achieving the
higher level of immigration.
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 去掉名额限制，长期是弊大于利啊。。。。比如2009年后的，用自己名额可以等3年基
: 本OK了。没有自
: 己名额，全世界的名额都给A3吃掉，加上EB3I--EB2I蝗虫的数量（取消limit，会让
: EB3i打鸡血的转
: EB2）。绝对大于3年，而且还是unpredictable的
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j******0
发帖数: 558 | 4 please look at the USCIS data before you blah blah
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: how do you know the immigration trend in the long term? I think your
: comment is very self-serving.
: For the benefit of the Chinese worldwide, we should encourage more
: immigration from China. eliminating the quota allows a larger potential
: Chinese population in the US in the long run. Chinese immigrants are at
: a disadvantage compares to the Indians because the number of immigrants
: is smaller, and to fundamentally solve this problem, we should make the
: US more attractive to the Chinese.
: In addition, the reason that currently Chinese gets less spill over is
: not because the US discriminates against the Chinese, but because there
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r*******i
发帖数: 133 | 5 我觉得不可能全部去掉啊, 违反了diversity的基本原则么. 提高倒是有可能的. 每年
还有H1B的名额限制, 不会无穷大的吧. |
c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 6 都没影的事，还讨论来做什么。该讨论怎么推进排期跨越前进。 |
p***e
发帖数: 29053 | 7 150k EB2 perm before 2010 a..............
if no limit and 40k per year for eb2, still need to wait 4 years to clear
it. And it doesn't include huge amount of EB3I-EB2I.......6 years is at
least.
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: how do you know the immigration trend in the long term? I think your
: comment is very self-serving.
: For the benefit of the Chinese worldwide, we should encourage more
: immigration from China. eliminating the quota allows a larger potential
: Chinese population in the US in the long run. Chinese immigrants are at
: a disadvantage compares to the Indians because the number of immigrants
: is smaller, and to fundamentally solve this problem, we should make the
: US more attractive to the Chinese.
: In addition, the reason that currently Chinese gets less spill over is
: not because the US discriminates against the Chinese, but because there
|
H****g
发帖数: 342 | 8 大家应该 看到 移民改革中 还有 增加 H-1B 名额的 提案的。
海量的 2002 的 EB3-I 还没解决呢 就是 因为 2000-2003 年的19万H-1B名额增加。
所以 要看到 老印 的 数量 是 动态的。 如果 H-1B 在放松。 ICC 就可以使劲搬
A3 了。
如果 绿卡 在 没有国家限制， EB23-C 就 完蛋了。 |
p***e
发帖数: 29053 | 9 totally agree...... this change is only good for PD before 2009. Anyway,
PD before 2009 can get it soon if SO is more than 30K this year.
Therefore, no need to cancel the county limit for long term.
【在 H****g 的大作中提到】
: 大家应该 看到 移民改革中 还有 增加 H-1B 名额的 提案的。
: 海量的 2002 的 EB3-I 还没解决呢 就是 因为 2000-2003 年的19万H-1B名额增加。
: 所以 要看到 老印 的 数量 是 动态的。 如果 H-1B 在放松。 ICC 就可以使劲搬
: A3 了。
: 如果 绿卡 在 没有国家限制， EB23-C 就 完蛋了。
|
S*****X
发帖数: 1129 | 10 支持POISE的观点--认真分析的结果，对中国最有利的--就是增加国家的名额比例;
而不是头脑一热， 扇风点火
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: totally agree...... this change is only good for PD before 2009. Anyway,
: PD before 2009 can get it soon if SO is more than 30K this year.
: Therefore, no need to cancel the county limit for long term.
:
:
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c**s
发帖数: 3796 | |
s*****l
发帖数: 321 | 12 long term? LOL. you must forget that how old PD had objected the progress of
the cut off date. The rational for that was that every one has the right to
fight for his own interest....
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 去掉名额限制，长期是弊大于利啊。。。。比如2009年后的，用自己名额可以等3年基
: 本OK了。没有自
: 己名额，全世界的名额都给A3吃掉，加上EB3I--EB2I蝗虫的数量（取消limit，会让
: EB3i打鸡血的转
: EB2）。绝对大于3年，而且还是unpredictable的
|
g****e
发帖数: 299 | 13 After ten years, all managers are Indians. You will all be screwed! |
f***i
发帖数: 185 | 14 agree
now EB2C binds to EB2I
without limit, EB2 all over the world binds to EB2I
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 去掉名额限制，长期是弊大于利啊。。。。比如2009年后的，用自己名额可以等3年基
: 本OK了。没有自
: 己名额，全世界的名额都给A3吃掉，加上EB3I--EB2I蝗虫的数量（取消limit，会让
: EB3i打鸡血的转
: EB2）。绝对大于3年，而且还是unpredictable的
|
t****1
发帖数: 827 | 15 你看过PERM数据和PENDING 485数据吗？ 老印在哪年可以吃掉全世界名额？根据现在的
数据，他们EB3需要等15年到20年。他们如果能转EB2，他们现在就不转了，难道还会坐
以待毙？
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 去掉名额限制，长期是弊大于利啊。。。。比如2009年后的，用自己名额可以等3年基
: 本OK了。没有自
: 己名额，全世界的名额都给A3吃掉，加上EB3I--EB2I蝗虫的数量（取消limit，会让
: EB3i打鸡血的转
: EB2）。绝对大于3年，而且还是unpredictable的
|
t****1
发帖数: 827 | 16 老印有15万 EB2 PERM？ 数据来源在哪里？你这是明目张胆的造谣。
来自劳工部官方数据表明，印度2008， 2009， 2010的 PERM 分别是 16569，11387，
28930。所以印度从2008至2010年的 PERM， 包括EB2和EB3，一共56886。
数据来源
http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx
对你这种明目张胆的造谣行径，我真的没话可说了。
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 150k EB2 perm before 2010 a..............
: if no limit and 40k per year for eb2, still need to wait 4 years to clear
: it. And it doesn't include huge amount of EB3I-EB2I.......6 years is at
: least.
|
t****1
发帖数: 827 | 17 在你blah blah之前，你看过什么数据了？说来听听？前面那位15万EB2 PERM谣言你也信？
【在 j******0 的大作中提到】
: please look at the USCIS data before you blah blah
|
t****1
发帖数: 827 | 18 你自己都没法拯救，还想着拯救其他国家的人啊？ 那些德国人日本人俄国人埃及人秘
鲁人，和你干同样的工作，同时申请绿卡，当他们拿到公民的时候，你可能绿卡还没拿
到呢。你替他们操什么心啊。
【在 f***i 的大作中提到】
: agree
: now EB2C binds to EB2I
: without limit, EB2 all over the world binds to EB2I
|
F****n
发帖数: 3271 | 19 暴露了不是, 如果你认为他的comment "self-serving", 说明你其实是认可他"取消限
额对今后EB2C不利的看法", 所以反对取消限额才有利可"SERVE"。否则你应该攻击他“
短视”，“无知”，“算的不对”等。
很多人牵涉到自己的眼前利益，真的会变的无比恶心，什么BUSHSHIT都敢乱扯，多少年
了都没长进。实在看不下去啊。
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: how do you know the immigration trend in the long term? I think your
: comment is very self-serving.
: For the benefit of the Chinese worldwide, we should encourage more
: immigration from China. eliminating the quota allows a larger potential
: Chinese population in the US in the long run. Chinese immigrants are at
: a disadvantage compares to the Indians because the number of immigrants
: is smaller, and to fundamentally solve this problem, we should make the
: US more attractive to the Chinese.
: In addition, the reason that currently Chinese gets less spill over is
: not because the US discriminates against the Chinese, but because there
|
M*******t
发帖数: 513 | 20 it would be worse if the current situation is not broken.
the numbers of EB2C's after 2009 maybe more than what we expected.
if EB2C only get 2803 /yr, than bonded with EB2I for SO(may have it more,
may have it less, or may not have it at all), it would take the same years
as EB2I's to be greened.
for the sake of ppl with PD later than 2009, the current situation has to be
shattered.
most of the ppl on the board now maybe fine with that, for the long run, it
would be the chance at this time to push the CASE...
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 去掉名额限制，长期是弊大于利啊。。。。比如2009年后的，用自己名额可以等3年基
: 本OK了。没有自
: 己名额，全世界的名额都给A3吃掉，加上EB3I--EB2I蝗虫的数量（取消limit，会让
: EB3i打鸡血的转
: EB2）。绝对大于3年，而且还是unpredictable的
|
w***7
发帖数: 5568 | 21
more,
years
to be
it
Then go ahead do it. Do whatever you can. We have enough talkers. We need
doers. Talk is cheap.
【在 M*******t 的大作中提到】
: it would be worse if the current situation is not broken.
: the numbers of EB2C's after 2009 maybe more than what we expected.
: if EB2C only get 2803 /yr, than bonded with EB2I for SO(may have it more,
: may have it less, or may not have it at all), it would take the same years
: as EB2I's to be greened.
: for the sake of ppl with PD later than 2009, the current situation has to be
: shattered.
: most of the ppl on the board now maybe fine with that, for the long run, it
: would be the chance at this time to push the CASE...
|
M*******t
发帖数: 513 | 22 it seems not many ppl favoring this CASE. i do not have the passion to do
something without credit...
hiahia,
【在 w***7 的大作中提到】
:
: more,
: years
: to be
: it
: Then go ahead do it. Do whatever you can. We have enough talkers. We need
: doers. Talk is cheap.
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