j***l
发帖数: 100 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
发信人: jadal (生命源于求索), 信区: Faculty
标 题: 今天fellowship申请被拒了，有点灰心，想问问
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 28 04:07:39 2010, 美东)
觉得申请postdoc fellowship是件很frustrating的事
今天据信中说‘The proposal was considered highly meritorious and was well
into the top quarter of the strong group that was considered this year’，请
问这是否是对每个被拒的applicant说的同样的套话? 我可以从中看出自己的申请材料
哪里不好么？
导师曾说申请postdoc fellowship最重要三个因素是：publication, recommendation
and proposal. 自己觉得前面两项应该还算过得去（并列一作Science,Plos Biol, 二作
Cell)；proposal中， |
b*****l
发帖数: 9499 | 2 我听说的是，最重要的是 connections。你的导师是谁，你的合作伙伴是谁，他们跟这
个 fellowship 的关系如何？这是最关键的。
拿我老板的话说，就是：do you have the right people in your team？
recommendation
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
: 发信人: jadal (生命源于求索), 信区: Faculty
: 标 题: 今天fellowship申请被拒了，有点灰心，想问问
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 28 04:07:39 2010, 美东)
: 觉得申请postdoc fellowship是件很frustrating的事
: 今天据信中说‘The proposal was considered highly meritorious and was well
: into the top quarter of the strong group that was considered this year’，请
: 问这是否是对每个被拒的applicant说的同样的套话? 我可以从中看出自己的申请材料
: 哪里不好么？
: 导师曾说申请postdoc fellowship最重要三个因素是：publication, recommendation
|
s****z
发帖数: 50 | 3 是哪个fellowship啊，怎么要求这么高？！ |
t****s
发帖数: 14 | 4 JCC近期应该出消息。并列一作排第二对竞争top fellowship帮助有限。
Postdoc fellowship主要就是看publication,sponsor lab,proposal。如果前两个很强，proposal一般也没问题，只要proposed方向不要和fellowship要求差太远。 |
p*******r
发帖数: 4048 | 5 Which fellowship?
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二作
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
: 发信人: jadal (生命源于求索), 信区: Faculty
: 标 题: 今天fellowship申请被拒了，有点灰心，想问问
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 28 04:07:39 2010, 美东)
: 觉得申请postdoc fellowship是件很frustrating的事
: 今天据信中说‘The proposal was considered highly meritorious and was well
: into the top quarter of the strong group that was considered this year’，请
: 问这是否是对每个被拒的applicant说的同样的套话? 我可以从中看出自己的申请材料
: 哪里不好么？
: 导师曾说申请postdoc fellowship最重要三个因素是：publication, recommendation
|
a****o
发帖数: 1786 | |
t****p
发帖数: 1504 | 7 申请博后要写proposal？我的理解是除非对方要求。一般招人广告上都是想好了要做的
大方向啊。
强，proposal一般也没问题，只要proposed方向不要和fellowship要求差太远。
【在 t****s 的大作中提到】
: JCC近期应该出消息。并列一作排第二对竞争top fellowship帮助有限。
: Postdoc fellowship主要就是看publication,sponsor lab,proposal。如果前两个很强，proposal一般也没问题，只要proposed方向不要和fellowship要求差太远。
|
O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 8 首先，不要灰心。咱们这行当，grant是拼死拼活地写，然后被残酷无情地据，挺正常
的。
具体到postodoc fellowship,恩，根据别人的经验来说，your publication and your
PI's credit are equally important. Proposal 和推荐信，其实没那么重要的。
recommendation
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
: 发信人: jadal (生命源于求索), 信区: Faculty
: 标 题: 今天fellowship申请被拒了，有点灰心，想问问
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 28 04:07:39 2010, 美东)
: 觉得申请postdoc fellowship是件很frustrating的事
: 今天据信中说‘The proposal was considered highly meritorious and was well
: into the top quarter of the strong group that was considered this year’，请
: 问这是否是对每个被拒的applicant说的同样的套话? 我可以从中看出自己的申请材料
: 哪里不好么？
: 导师曾说申请postdoc fellowship最重要三个因素是：publication, recommendation
|
p*****s
发帖数: 33 | 9 Don't be discouraged.
A few years ago, I applied these prestigious fellowships. For all four
competitive (HW,JC, DR,etc) ones, I was in the last round of discussion in
all four and didn't get any. One of them I ranked 14 and should get it
normally but that year their cut-line is really high up.
I was really depressed for a while. But life moved on. A few years later,
I started faculty search and got quite a few offers. I ended up in a big
research university with good ranking.
Life would ha |
l***d
发帖数: 1828 | 10 我也申请过AHA的,结果人家一句,关系不大就把我据了.
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二作
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
: 发信人: jadal (生命源于求索), 信区: Faculty
: 标 题: 今天fellowship申请被拒了，有点灰心，想问问
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 28 04:07:39 2010, 美东)
: 觉得申请postdoc fellowship是件很frustrating的事
: 今天据信中说‘The proposal was considered highly meritorious and was well
: into the top quarter of the strong group that was considered this year’，请
: 问这是否是对每个被拒的applicant说的同样的套话? 我可以从中看出自己的申请材料
: 哪里不好么？
: 导师曾说申请postdoc fellowship最重要三个因素是：publication, recommendation
|
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O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 11 是啊，前1/4已经不错了
【在 a****o 的大作中提到】
: 都进前1/4还灰心
: 被老板禁止申请的飘过
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O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 12 是博后的fellowship
【在 t****p 的大作中提到】
: 申请博后要写proposal？我的理解是除非对方要求。一般招人广告上都是想好了要做的
: 大方向啊。
:
: 强，proposal一般也没问题，只要proposed方向不要和fellowship要求差太远。
|
j***l
发帖数: 100 | 13 谢谢大家的回答，对有些疑问说明一下：
申请的是JCC,好像录取率10％左右，也不算低得离谱；并列一作中Science排第一，
Plos排第二；所以大家觉得导师的credit和connection比proposal和推荐信都重要？现
在的导师年龄不轻了，实验室以前postdoc几乎都没有留在academia，文章产量较低，
尤其是最近，有一次他在组会上说一个主要的funding没有被续是因为被此funding支持
的projects没有达到人家期望的产量，我觉得主要是实验室走的路太专，太elegant，
导师因为年龄的原因，不太愿意尝试新的东西。我当时在选择实验室的时候完全没有考
虑funding问题，主要是喜欢组里的人，欣赏导师个人对science的热爱（也因为如此，
他好像有点geeky和socially retarded），还有地理位置。
我一共申请了两个fellowship，另外一个结果还没有下来但录率更低，这样看来我似乎
也没有什么希望了。到九月份已经postdoc一年，放眼望去好像没有什么可以的申请了
吧... |
j***l
发帖数: 100 | 14 Thanks for your encouragement and sharing your story! You're right that
personal ability is still the one that counts in the end. However,
almost all my friends/previous colleagues who recently got the faculty
jobs had got the grants with them, either K99 or Burroughs Wellcome. Do
you think it is true now that the search committee only consider
candidates who have already got their first grant successfully?
It's still early for me, but what in your mind may be the most important
for those gra
【在 p*****s 的大作中提到】
: Don't be discouraged.
: A few years ago, I applied these prestigious fellowships. For all four
: competitive (HW,JC, DR,etc) ones, I was in the last round of discussion in
: all four and didn't get any. One of them I ranked 14 and should get it
: normally but that year their cut-line is really high up.
: I was really depressed for a while. But life moved on. A few years later,
: I started faculty search and got quite a few offers. I ended up in a big
: research university with good ranking.
: Life would ha
|
S**********l
发帖数: 3835 | 15 I am afraid so, but it wouldn't hurt to try.
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your encouragement and sharing your story! You're right that
: personal ability is still the one that counts in the end. However,
: almost all my friends/previous colleagues who recently got the faculty
: jobs had got the grants with them, either K99 or Burroughs Wellcome. Do
: you think it is true now that the search committee only consider
: candidates who have already got their first grant successfully?
: It's still early for me, but what in your mind may be the most important
: for those gra
|
p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 16 牛人出现了 呵呵
,
【在 p*****s 的大作中提到】
: Don't be discouraged.
: A few years ago, I applied these prestigious fellowships. For all four
: competitive (HW,JC, DR,etc) ones, I was in the last round of discussion in
: all four and didn't get any. One of them I ranked 14 and should get it
: normally but that year their cut-line is really high up.
: I was really depressed for a while. But life moved on. A few years later,
: I started faculty search and got quite a few offers. I ended up in a big
: research university with good ranking.
: Life would ha
|
c******6
发帖数: 928 | 17 I applied a faculty position when I had a pending postdoc fellowship. The
committee replied that the fellowship is not counted on a grant. |
p*******r
发帖数: 4048 | 18
For top schools, those are not a factor at all.
For 50-100 schools, I think those help.
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your encouragement and sharing your story! You're right that
: personal ability is still the one that counts in the end. However,
: almost all my friends/previous colleagues who recently got the faculty
: jobs had got the grants with them, either K99 or Burroughs Wellcome. Do
: you think it is true now that the search committee only consider
: candidates who have already got their first grant successfully?
: It's still early for me, but what in your mind may be the most important
: for those gra
|
p*******r
发帖数: 4048 | 19 Yeah, I think the problem is probably your advisor.
Fellowship is nice to have, but paper is much more important.
Don't worry.
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢大家的回答，对有些疑问说明一下：
: 申请的是JCC,好像录取率10％左右，也不算低得离谱；并列一作中Science排第一，
: Plos排第二；所以大家觉得导师的credit和connection比proposal和推荐信都重要？现
: 在的导师年龄不轻了，实验室以前postdoc几乎都没有留在academia，文章产量较低，
: 尤其是最近，有一次他在组会上说一个主要的funding没有被续是因为被此funding支持
: 的projects没有达到人家期望的产量，我觉得主要是实验室走的路太专，太elegant，
: 导师因为年龄的原因，不太愿意尝试新的东西。我当时在选择实验室的时候完全没有考
: 虑funding问题，主要是喜欢组里的人，欣赏导师个人对science的热爱（也因为如此，
: 他好像有点geeky和socially retarded），还有地理位置。
: 我一共申请了两个fellowship，另外一个结果还没有下来但录率更低，这样看来我似乎
|
S**********l
发帖数: 3835 | 20 就是说越有钱的学校越不在乎是不是带钱来。
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: Yeah, I think the problem is probably your advisor.
: Fellowship is nice to have, but paper is much more important.
: Don't worry.
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p*******r
发帖数: 4048 | 21 Right.
【在 S**********l 的大作中提到】
: 就是说越有钱的学校越不在乎是不是带钱来。
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p****n
发帖数: 9263 | 22 你老板不好意思跟你说，其实最重要的就一个因素，你老板的名字...
请
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二作
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your encouragement and sharing your story! You're right that
: personal ability is still the one that counts in the end. However,
: almost all my friends/previous colleagues who recently got the faculty
: jobs had got the grants with them, either K99 or Burroughs Wellcome. Do
: you think it is true now that the search committee only consider
: candidates who have already got their first grant successfully?
: It's still early for me, but what in your mind may be the most important
: for those gra
|
a*****n
发帖数: 2835 | 23 我今天也收到拒信了，靠
不过我没有楼主的publication好，被拒也在意料之中，但是很是很不爽啊
recommendation
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
: 发信人: jadal (生命源于求索), 信区: Faculty
: 标 题: 今天fellowship申请被拒了，有点灰心，想问问
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 28 04:07:39 2010, 美东)
: 觉得申请postdoc fellowship是件很frustrating的事
: 今天据信中说‘The proposal was considered highly meritorious and was well
: into the top quarter of the strong group that was considered this year’，请
: 问这是否是对每个被拒的applicant说的同样的套话? 我可以从中看出自己的申请材料
: 哪里不好么？
: 导师曾说申请postdoc fellowship最重要三个因素是：publication, recommendation
|
a*****n
发帖数: 2835 | 24 我今天也收到fellowship的拒信了，尽管申请的时候就觉得希望不大，但是真的被拒了
还是很不爽的，太打击人了
recommendation
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
: 发信人: jadal (生命源于求索), 信区: Faculty
: 标 题: 今天fellowship申请被拒了，有点灰心，想问问
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 28 04:07:39 2010, 美东)
: 觉得申请postdoc fellowship是件很frustrating的事
: 今天据信中说‘The proposal was considered highly meritorious and was well
: into the top quarter of the strong group that was considered this year’，请
: 问这是否是对每个被拒的applicant说的同样的套话? 我可以从中看出自己的申请材料
: 哪里不好么？
: 导师曾说申请postdoc fellowship最重要三个因素是：publication, recommendation
|
a*****n
发帖数: 2835 | 25 还是一心一意的发paper吧
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我今天也收到拒信了，靠
: 不过我没有楼主的publication好，被拒也在意料之中，但是很是很不爽啊
:
: recommendation
|
q*****n
发帖数: 331 | 26 You should get a detailed reviewer comments talking about your proposal's
weakness, and i think you can improve your writing from there.
Don't be frustrated, it is common in this bad economy.
If you want to land a faculty job, getting a postdoc fellowship is critical.
I've heard that a lot of schools automatically eliminate people from the
list if they don't have any fellowship.
My suggestion is:
since you have strong paper, you should try to get your green card first,
file an EB1 application an |
p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 27 阿 能不能举几个例子？fellowship感觉不像有这么大用啊
critical.
.
【在 q*****n 的大作中提到】
: You should get a detailed reviewer comments talking about your proposal's
: weakness, and i think you can improve your writing from there.
: Don't be frustrated, it is common in this bad economy.
: If you want to land a faculty job, getting a postdoc fellowship is critical.
: I've heard that a lot of schools automatically eliminate people from the
: list if they don't have any fellowship.
: My suggestion is:
: since you have strong paper, you should try to get your green card first,
: file an EB1 application an
|
V*f
发帖数: 171 | 28 Oh, come on, why are your comments so un-scientific. Top schools hate money
?
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: Right.
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I***a
发帖数: 13467 | |
q******c
发帖数: 741 | 30 I was also rejected by JCC. No comment.
I am encouraged by the nice words from all the friends here.Qiuchan's advice
is nice, I think. GC-NIH fellowship is a better way for us.
Good luck |
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h*****o
发帖数: 342 | 31 i guess what he means is... top schools have a lot money so it does not
matter if you bring your own small funding or not
money
【在 V*f 的大作中提到】
: Oh, come on, why are your comments so un-scientific. Top schools hate money
: ?
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q*****n
发帖数: 331 | 32 I was in the faculty job market last year and this year too. I went to a
few interviews. Basically, every interviewee have at least postdoc
fellowships,and some of them have fundings that are transferable.
The faculty job market is really tough these days (since 2008), and if you
check the advertisement from most schools, they normally have something
like" the candidate need to show the ability to obtain external fundings",
which generally means you need to have at least postdoc fellowship as a
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 阿 能不能举几个例子？fellowship感觉不像有这么大用啊
:
: critical.
: .
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w******y
发帖数: 8040 | 33 大faint,
上次我问这个姐们为啥publication比较一般，研究方向比较一般
能拿到mit的offer， 应该主要是背后老虎厉害吧
结果有人回答说不是， 而是因为它手里有K99。。。
http://bcs.mit.edu/people/xu.html
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: i guess what he means is... top schools have a lot money so it does not
: matter if you bring your own small funding or not
:
: money
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p*f
发帖数: 739 | 34 k99不都faculty了。
【在 w******y 的大作中提到】
: 大faint,
: 上次我问这个姐们为啥publication比较一般，研究方向比较一般
: 能拿到mit的offer， 应该主要是背后老虎厉害吧
: 结果有人回答说不是， 而是因为它手里有K99。。。
: http://bcs.mit.edu/people/xu.html
|
p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 35 hehe 谢谢经验
【在 q*****n 的大作中提到】
: I was in the faculty job market last year and this year too. I went to a
: few interviews. Basically, every interviewee have at least postdoc
: fellowships,and some of them have fundings that are transferable.
: The faculty job market is really tough these days (since 2008), and if you
: check the advertisement from most schools, they normally have something
: like" the candidate need to show the ability to obtain external fundings",
: which generally means you need to have at least postdoc fellowship as a
|
s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 36 哎，我都被拒了无数次了。
慢慢脸皮就变厚了就没有那么难过了。
这些经历是生物人必经的磨砺。被各种各样的机构锯是成长的一部分吧
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我今天也收到fellowship的拒信了，尽管申请的时候就觉得希望不大，但是真的被拒了
: 还是很不爽的，太打击人了
:
: recommendation
|
a*****n
发帖数: 2835 | 37 你最后有没有搞定一个？
我这也是第四次被拒了，准备马上再投一个试试，估计这辈子是跟fellowship无缘了，
都怪phd的时候paper没有发够
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 哎，我都被拒了无数次了。
: 慢慢脸皮就变厚了就没有那么难过了。
: 这些经历是生物人必经的磨砺。被各种各样的机构锯是成长的一部分吧
|
s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 38 目前还没有。不过我也不着急了。反正老板目前还挺乐意养我的。
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: 你最后有没有搞定一个？
: 我这也是第四次被拒了，准备马上再投一个试试，估计这辈子是跟fellowship无缘了，
: 都怪phd的时候paper没有发够
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O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 39 那几篇才够呢？
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: 你最后有没有搞定一个？
: 我这也是第四次被拒了，准备马上再投一个试试，估计这辈子是跟fellowship无缘了，
: 都怪phd的时候paper没有发够
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a********k
发帖数: 2273 | 40 前面不是6篇连绿卡都不够么，fellowship没有9篇10篇的都不好意思见人
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 那几篇才够呢？
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w******y
发帖数: 8040 | 41 办绿卡看数量
申fellowship主要看质量吧
【在 a********k 的大作中提到】
: 前面不是6篇连绿卡都不够么，fellowship没有9篇10篇的都不好意思见人
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O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 42 而且什么6篇9篇的，估计多半是生物信息一类的吧。
【在 w******y 的大作中提到】
: 办绿卡看数量
: 申fellowship主要看质量吧
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h*****o
发帖数: 342 | 43 太可怕了。。。大家不要上纲上线么
【在 a********k 的大作中提到】
: 前面不是6篇连绿卡都不够么，fellowship没有9篇10篇的都不好意思见人
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a*****n
发帖数: 2835 | 44 现在这个时节，最好有一两片CNS或者若干篇JBC左右的paper加上大牛老板实验室加上
一个好的proposal
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 那几篇才够呢？
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O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 45 这是在找faculty job了吧
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: 现在这个时节，最好有一两片CNS或者若干篇JBC左右的paper加上大牛老板实验室加上
: 一个好的proposal
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n****n
发帖数: 434 | 46 Totally right! Guys should realize that it is not about the money. It is
about your ABILITY to attract
extramural funding.
【在 q*****n 的大作中提到】
: I was in the faculty job market last year and this year too. I went to a
: few interviews. Basically, every interviewee have at least postdoc
: fellowships,and some of them have fundings that are transferable.
: The faculty job market is really tough these days (since 2008), and if you
: check the advertisement from most schools, they normally have something
: like" the candidate need to show the ability to obtain external fundings",
: which generally means you need to have at least postdoc fellowship as a
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n****n
发帖数: 434 | 47 OK, OK, a little more sharing. I think I am qualified to speak (I had 3
fellowships).
Having a fellowship (including pre-doc ones) is an important factor to
demonstrate your ability to write and attract funding. Again, money is not a
big issue. However, if you can secure K99 and BW transition awards, you are
half way into a faculty position. Needless to say, papers (quality and
quantity) is a top factor, which determines your chance to get a faculty
position AND a fellowship.
So in an order from |
x**s
发帖数: 185 | 48 fellowship作为salary stipend的时候要交税吗？
a
are
【在 n****n 的大作中提到】
: OK, OK, a little more sharing. I think I am qualified to speak (I had 3
: fellowships).
: Having a fellowship (including pre-doc ones) is an important factor to
: demonstrate your ability to write and attract funding. Again, money is not a
: big issue. However, if you can secure K99 and BW transition awards, you are
: half way into a faculty position. Needless to say, papers (quality and
: quantity) is a top factor, which determines your chance to get a faculty
: position AND a fellowship.
: So in an order from
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c********h
发帖数: 150 | 49 老板是最重要的因素，千真万确
美国并不比国内水清
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 你老板不好意思跟你说，其实最重要的就一个因素，你老板的名字...
:
: 请
: recommendation
: 二作
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T******y
发帖数: 14506 | 50 薄厚可不可以申请好几个fellowship，然后同时拿两个不同的fellowship？ |
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w*****n
发帖数: 107 | 51 it seems that you cannot do this
【在 T******y 的大作中提到】
: 薄厚可不可以申请好几个fellowship，然后同时拿两个不同的fellowship？
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D******9
发帖数: 2665 | 52 you can apply several, but can only keep one |
T******y
发帖数: 14506 | 53 不要
【在 x**s 的大作中提到】
: fellowship作为salary stipend的时候要交税吗？
:
: a
: are
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x**s
发帖数: 185 | 54 那再问一下，这个是发工资的时候就没有扣税，还是填税表的时候再要回来？
晕，好像有人问过这个问题
【在 T******y 的大作中提到】
: 不要
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t****s
发帖数: 14 | 55 Postdoc开工时都要培训的，所有的postdoc fellowship，不管是从federal或者
private funding agency，法律规定都必须缴联邦和州税。
Harvard这边是先不扣税，但是你自己得按季交给IRS。
【在 x**s 的大作中提到】
: 那再问一下，这个是发工资的时候就没有扣税，还是填税表的时候再要回来？
: 晕，好像有人问过这个问题
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 56 如果是predoctoral fellowship, 可以不用扣税。如果是postdoctoral fellowship，
肯定扣税，然后每年根据不同的visa status往回要。 |
c*****t
发帖数: 198 | 57 Are there non-citizen predoctoral fellowships? |
T******y
发帖数: 14506 | 58 我老板说不用扣税，我就没问。
【在 x**s 的大作中提到】
: 那再问一下，这个是发工资的时候就没有扣税，还是填税表的时候再要回来？
: 晕，好像有人问过这个问题
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C******r
发帖数: 790 | 59 proposal很重要
我今天刚收到拒信和reviewer comments
两个reviewer都说publication, sponsor credits, institute, recommendation都很
好，但是我的proposal比较disappointing-_-b，有一个reviewer还提到老板的
training计划不够具体。我的proposal给phd老板和现在老板都看过，本以为不会有什
么大问题，没想到给的评价这么差。。。
your
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 首先，不要灰心。咱们这行当，grant是拼死拼活地写，然后被残酷无情地据，挺正常
: 的。
: 具体到postodoc fellowship,恩，根据别人的经验来说，your publication and your
: PI's credit are equally important. Proposal 和推荐信，其实没那么重要的。
:
: recommendation
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C******r
发帖数: 790 | 60 爬上来就是想来跟名人你握个手
俺今天也正式加入被拒的行列中，想到行列里有sunnyday这样的优秀ID，俺顿时也觉得
没那么沮丧了：）
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 哎，我都被拒了无数次了。
: 慢慢脸皮就变厚了就没有那么难过了。
: 这些经历是生物人必经的磨砺。被各种各样的机构锯是成长的一部分吧
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a*****n
发帖数: 2835 | 61 你这能看到reviewers comments已经很不错了，我这连comments也看不到就只是告诉被拒
【在 C******r 的大作中提到】
: proposal很重要
: 我今天刚收到拒信和reviewer comments
: 两个reviewer都说publication, sponsor credits, institute, recommendation都很
: 好，但是我的proposal比较disappointing-_-b，有一个reviewer还提到老板的
: training计划不够具体。我的proposal给phd老板和现在老板都看过，本以为不会有什
: 么大问题，没想到给的评价这么差。。。
:
: your
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f*********6
发帖数: 94 | 62 throw in my two cents.
My postdoc mentor told me a word called "schmooze", and she explained to me
what it meant and how it could be useful in some context. For instance,
after you submitted an application you should attend a big conference in
your field where you could meet and schmooze potential reviewers. It really
does the job.
Good luck to everyone! |
d******r
发帖数: 244 | 63 牛人别灰心，不是你的问题。我老板这样说的“...it really depends on who is
going
to review the proposal. So, part of it is luck of the draw.”
哈哈哈，加油吧~~~
recommendation
二作
【在 j***l 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your encouragement and sharing your story! You're right that
: personal ability is still the one that counts in the end. However,
: almost all my friends/previous colleagues who recently got the faculty
: jobs had got the grants with them, either K99 or Burroughs Wellcome. Do
: you think it is true now that the search committee only consider
: candidates who have already got their first grant successfully?
: It's still early for me, but what in your mind may be the most important
: for those gra
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h****2
发帖数: 57 | 64 I think getting a fellowship sometimes also needs luck. Maybe what you
proposed is not what JCC is looking for or planning to fund. Or maybe there
are many very very very strong candidates this year or their proposals fit
better.
Don't worry. Many people apply numerous fellowships before they get one.
Keep trying! Fingers' crossed! |
h****2
发帖数: 57 | 65 Oh, also I do not pay tax for my fellowship, as it comes as international
money. Also I am in my 1st year of J1, so tax-exempt for 3 years. |
