s*******u 发帖数: 1855 | 1 湖人的合同信息,见 http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm
下赛季的奢侈税,假设70M吧,上下浮动不会超过3M
现在的情况,kobe 23M, gasol 16.5M,andrew 12.5, etc, 总起来,74M,不包括
lamar,ariza,powell,dj,brown
这个powell跟dj应该可以底薪留下。brown就算比底线高,也有限。这三个人,最多3M
。这样77M了
如果按照market,lamar算10M,ariza算6M吧。这样超出luxury 23M。这个如果buss愿
意出,自然最好。毕竟,如果夺冠,单纯季后赛就能超出50M,算上各种衍生产品,冠
军带来70M以上都可能
但是,毕竟资本家是资本家。如果buss舍不得,就比较麻烦了。
我基本认为,这两个人,必须都留下。丢了任何一个,不再是冠军水平。最理想的方案
,kobe opts out,签一个5年1-1。2亿,第一年20M。这样胜下3×2=6M
然后湖人看看lamar能不能接受8-9M的合同。我觉得8×5是有可能的。lamar现在29,按
照他的打法,估计3 |
s*******u 发帖数: 1855 | 2 对了,ariza最大的问题,倒不是持球攻,湖人也不需要这个。他最大的问题是,没有
中投。一般空位接球,要么三分,要么虚晃,突破。其实常常中距离很空,但是他不成
,一定要突破的篮底下layup。如果会中投,轻松很多,难防得多 |
h****n 发帖数: 1285 | |
h****n 发帖数: 1285 | 4 中投也成,
ariza就不止中产了
【在 s*******u 的大作中提到】 : 对了,ariza最大的问题,倒不是持球攻,湖人也不需要这个。他最大的问题是,没有 : 中投。一般空位接球,要么三分,要么虚晃,突破。其实常常中距离很空,但是他不成 : ,一定要突破的篮底下layup。如果会中投,轻松很多,难防得多
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p*********n 发帖数: 1618 | 5 Lakers won't resign both Ariza and Odom unless they can get rid of one of
the contracts of Sasha and Ammo.(Ammo's contract might be easier to remove
because it is expiring.).Unlike most of the owners of NBA clubs, Buss relies
on the team for his main income. He does not have another pocket to dig
into.
Personally, I prefer to LO if i have to choose. An athletic wingman is
easier to replace than a versatile 6-10.
Hopefully, Mitch can wave his magic wand and create enough cap space to sign
both of
【在 s*******u 的大作中提到】 : 湖人的合同信息,见 http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm : 下赛季的奢侈税,假设70M吧,上下浮动不会超过3M : 现在的情况,kobe 23M, gasol 16.5M,andrew 12.5, etc, 总起来,74M,不包括 : lamar,ariza,powell,dj,brown : 这个powell跟dj应该可以底薪留下。brown就算比底线高,也有限。这三个人,最多3M : 。这样77M了 : 如果按照market,lamar算10M,ariza算6M吧。这样超出luxury 23M。这个如果buss愿 : 意出,自然最好。毕竟,如果夺冠,单纯季后赛就能超出50M,算上各种衍生产品,冠 : 军带来70M以上都可能 : 但是,毕竟资本家是资本家。如果buss舍不得,就比较麻烦了。
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l*****i 发帖数: 20533 | 6 这就不是球迷能想的事了。想想火箭,奢侈税以内运作还要设法凑成一支争冠军的队伍
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s*******u 发帖数: 1855 | 7 如果buss不愿意留both,我也vote lamar。
但是看看绿人,没了posey,下降很大。湖人如果丢了ariza,这个位置也不补强,肯定
不是冠军水平。能否进final都是疑问。想象一下,12M(6+2),西部决赛loser跟
champ的差别,你愿意干什么?单说经济也不亏吧。再说buss是号称夺冠第一,经济第
二的
relies
sign
【在 p*********n 的大作中提到】 : Lakers won't resign both Ariza and Odom unless they can get rid of one of : the contracts of Sasha and Ammo.(Ammo's contract might be easier to remove : because it is expiring.).Unlike most of the owners of NBA clubs, Buss relies : on the team for his main income. He does not have another pocket to dig : into. : Personally, I prefer to LO if i have to choose. An athletic wingman is : easier to replace than a versatile 6-10. : Hopefully, Mitch can wave his magic wand and create enough cap space to sign : both of
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p*********n 发帖数: 1618 | 8 If Ariza can be retained with no-more-than-MLE money, I think Buss might be
willing to pay. Even if he is lured away by other team, Lakers can still go
after players like Anthony Parker with their MLE. Anthony Parker is less
athletic and older. But he has better handle and better jump shot. He is a
solid defender too. And he has tie to LA.
【在 s*******u 的大作中提到】 : 如果buss不愿意留both,我也vote lamar。 : 但是看看绿人,没了posey,下降很大。湖人如果丢了ariza,这个位置也不补强,肯定 : 不是冠军水平。能否进final都是疑问。想象一下,12M(6+2),西部决赛loser跟 : champ的差别,你愿意干什么?单说经济也不亏吧。再说buss是号称夺冠第一,经济第 : 二的 : : relies : sign
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 9 I think both lamar and ariza will be resigned, I don't think
lakers will use their MLE.
be
go
【在 p*********n 的大作中提到】 : If Ariza can be retained with no-more-than-MLE money, I think Buss might be : willing to pay. Even if he is lured away by other team, Lakers can still go : after players like Anthony Parker with their MLE. Anthony Parker is less : athletic and older. But he has better handle and better jump shot. He is a : solid defender too. And he has tie to LA.
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K*4 发帖数: 1808 | 10 Lakers probably will get rid of AM's contract in some way to have enough
money to keep both LO and TA |
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d*****d 发帖数: 3081 | 11 我也觉的这是唯一出路,找谁作冤大头阿,不好又找狗熊吧
【在 K*4 的大作中提到】 : Lakers probably will get rid of AM's contract in some way to have enough : money to keep both LO and TA
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K******l 发帖数: 2501 | 12 detroit? lol
【在 d*****d 的大作中提到】 : 我也觉的这是唯一出路,找谁作冤大头阿,不好又找狗熊吧
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K*4 发帖数: 1808 | 13 要动手得赶早,火箭也盯上了灰熊,LOL
【在 d*****d 的大作中提到】 : 我也觉的这是唯一出路,找谁作冤大头阿,不好又找狗熊吧
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k****n 发帖数: 938 | 14 怎样把machine和walton搞出手才是道理。
walton其实当替补很好,而且是lakers里对三角进攻最熟悉的几个人之一,只是6m的薪
水太高了。
machine已经完全业余化了。 |
y****e 发帖数: 23939 | |
c********t 发帖数: 5706 | 16 Lamar和Ariza肯定有人抢,7,8m 和 6m很难留住阿 |
v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 17 only reason -- they want more rings.
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】 : Lamar和Ariza肯定有人抢,7,8m 和 6m很难留住阿
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c********t 发帖数: 5706 | 18 首先需要buss想要rings, 愿付奢侈税
Kobe降薪不太靠谱。愿意降薪的人很少,就算作为铁杆球迷,有谁愿意降薪1/5看喜欢
的队伍夺冠?
我觉得留下larmar, 放Ariza, 然后弄个新秀顶顶比较靠谱。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】 : only reason -- they want more rings.
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 19 Ariza正处在上升期
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】 : 首先需要buss想要rings, 愿付奢侈税 : Kobe降薪不太靠谱。愿意降薪的人很少,就算作为铁杆球迷,有谁愿意降薪1/5看喜欢 : 的队伍夺冠? : 我觉得留下larmar, 放Ariza, 然后弄个新秀顶顶比较靠谱。
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k****n 发帖数: 938 | 20 odom和ariza能否都留下还要看kobe是否跳出合同以及新合同的价值。 |
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n**y 发帖数: 11447 | 21 lamar 10M以下肯定会被抢
ariza最多值6M,再多了就可以放走了 |
p*********n 发帖数: 1618 | 22 Many team will be interested in them for sure. But if you look at the salary
situation of other 29 teams, only few of them have more MLE to sign free
agent in this summer.Piston, Grizzle and NY might be the only ones with cap
space.None of them will be willing to spend big money on Ariza. Their SF
positions are already filled with capable players. Piston and NY might need
the service of a player like LO, but both are keeping the salary space for
the 2010 sweep stake.A contract that is too big to
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】 : Lamar和Ariza肯定有人抢,7,8m 和 6m很难留住阿
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 23 I think they'll be back, it's said Lakers grossed 40M in this playoff run.
If they missed one of them for not making finals next year, Buss will be
deeply regretted.
salary
cap
need
likely
【在 p*********n 的大作中提到】 : Many team will be interested in them for sure. But if you look at the salary : situation of other 29 teams, only few of them have more MLE to sign free : agent in this summer.Piston, Grizzle and NY might be the only ones with cap : space.None of them will be willing to spend big money on Ariza. Their SF : positions are already filled with capable players. Piston and NY might need : the service of a player like LO, but both are keeping the salary space for : the 2010 sweep stake.A contract that is too big to
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c****e 发帖数: 1464 | 24 估计明年孙月也没大戏。
3M
【在 s*******u 的大作中提到】 : 湖人的合同信息,见 http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm : 下赛季的奢侈税,假设70M吧,上下浮动不会超过3M : 现在的情况,kobe 23M, gasol 16.5M,andrew 12.5, etc, 总起来,74M,不包括 : lamar,ariza,powell,dj,brown : 这个powell跟dj应该可以底薪留下。brown就算比底线高,也有限。这三个人,最多3M : 。这样77M了 : 如果按照market,lamar算10M,ariza算6M吧。这样超出luxury 23M。这个如果buss愿 : 意出,自然最好。毕竟,如果夺冠,单纯季后赛就能超出50M,算上各种衍生产品,冠 : 军带来70M以上都可能 : 但是,毕竟资本家是资本家。如果buss舍不得,就比较麻烦了。
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