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l****z
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(CNSNews.com) – Federal and state welfare assistance has grown almost 19
percent under President Barack Obama, according to the conservative Heritage
Foundation.
All in all, there are 79 means-tested federal welfare programs, at a cost
approaching $1 trillion annually, said Heritage Senior Research Fellow
Robert Rector.
Rector conducted a comprehensive analysis of spending for government
assistance programs, ranging from food, education and childcare programs to
housing and medical care.
Since F... 阅读全帖
a******o
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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/330821/total-welfare-spend
Total Welfare Spending Now at $1 Trillion
By NRO Staff
October 18, 2012 4:00 A.M.
Comments
66
Total annual spending on federal means-tested welfare programs has hit $1
trillion. The Congressional Research Service is out with a new memorandum on
spending on these programs. Senator Jeff Sessions, the ranking Republican
on the Senate budget committee who requested the memo, has crunched the
numbers and come up with the astonishing figu... 阅读全帖
l****z
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by The Political Palaver
This video hit Drudge Report this morning, showing a young rapper named Mr.
EBT talking about "swipin' his EBT," (welfare card) and what he can and can'
t buy with it. Drudge linked the video as "Song Celbrates Welfare Card!"
The onslaught of conservative commenters from Drudge's link generally
relayed criticism of the welfare state and for the video itself, which they
certainly found to be celebrating welfare culture. Leftist commenters on
the video, however, find it ... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - Welfare Killed The Little Red Hen
March 28, 2012 by John Myers
The yoke that is the welfare state has thoroughly infected America. If
voters re-elect President Barack Obama, he will brainwash all Americans into
thinking they are entitled to government handouts. Most Americans don’t
understand that independent people are losing their way as the President
crusades to build his Nanny Nation — a country so transformed that even the
oral traditions that were taught for generations have been eradicated.
To be fair, it is not all Obama... 阅读全帖

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https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1179611-does-being-on-fa-
or-taking-subsidized-student-loans-mean-being-on-welfare.html
拿过奖学金,助学金的,拿过学生贷款的,尤其是贷款买房的! 如果贷款拿到Fannie
Mae, Freddie mac担保的,这是美国政府implicit担保,利息比市场利息低,美国贷
款95%都是这2个公司担保的。
保税时候用过Interest deduction, 少交税了,如果扩展定义,就可以算是拿过联邦
welfare的。
如果要折腾合法移民不让转公民,有好多办法折腾,只要扩充welfares定义,可以全盘
打到,没几个人能绿卡转公民。当然现在还不会这么扩展,估计先打击拿现金的,再慢
慢扩展。
扩充welfare的定义,今天报纸上都提了。比如私人医疗保险是tax deductible,按照
扩充定义,是最大的税务支出,就是welfare,
参见 https://www.taxpolicycenter.org... 阅读全帖
l****z
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2:40 PM, Aug 8, 2012 • By DANIEL HALPER
A new chart set to be released later today by the Republican side of the
Senate Budget Committee details a startling statistic: "Over 100 Million
People in U.S. Now Receiving Some Form Of Federal Welfare."
"The federal government administers nearly 80 different overlapping federal
means-tested welfare programs," the Senate Budget Committee notes. However,
the committee states, the figures used in the chart do not include those who
are only benefiting... 阅读全帖
b****y
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因为这是一个大概念和小概念的区别。
food stamp 是welfare的一种。
welfare还可以有其他的方面: 医疗保险,child support。。。。
纽约时报的文章说的是cash welfare。也是welfare的一个方面。
d*****s
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估计是定义的问题。
food stamp很明显的定义,非常清晰,说明红州确实穷。
welfare定义不清晰,到底什么是welfare,估计州和州之间也有差别,比如说拿社会安
全退休金的算不算?如果算的话,那全美国所有人退休后都会有政府welfare。
还有拿medicare的算不算,如果算,同样所有人老了后都会在welfare上。
所以也许是北方蓝州年龄结构比较老一点。
b****y
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纽约时报列的是cash welfare。
只是welfare的一种。
welfare是有定义的。社会安全退休金和medicare不是welfare。
l*****6
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其实这个是跟taxation息息相关的。
It not an independent grant of power, but a qualification of the taxing
power.
“The laying of taxes is the power, and the general welfare the purpose for
which the power is to be exercised. They [Congress] are not to lay taxes ad
libitum for any purpose they please; but only to pay the debts or provide
for the welfare of the Union. In like manner, they are not to do anything
they please to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay taxes for
that purpose.”
Thomas Jeffe... 阅读全帖
b****r
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来自主题: Military版 - welfare每年接近一个trillion
乘法大概是三年级学的,你不太熟悉是有可能的,所以我耐心地给你讲解一下。
1800/year是food stamp领取的平均数字,已经把统计分布考虑进去了。42m是统计出来
领取FS的人口数,也是真实数据。
1800X42m=75.6B.
2015年food stamp budget是80B不到的样子。也就是说,光看food stamp的话,budget
的钱绝大多数(~95%)是被人领走了。至于其他的welfare program,我才没这么多闲心
去给你查。
你那些13740的鬼数字是从410B welfare program total budget来的,你用这个去和平
均能领到的food stamp相比,不是搞笑是什么?我再耐心地教你一遍:welfare
program包括EIC,housing,food stamp等等;food stamp budget是80B,over.

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l****z
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March 25, 2012 | Posted by Warner Todd Huston
Hosannas. Obama has finally cut some federal spending. But noting which
agency he shut down is sort of emblematic of his whole welfare/big
government-pushing presidency.
On Friday, the Department of Commerce announced that it would be shutting
down all five regional offices of the Minority Business Development Agency,
an agency that was created by Richard Nixon to help develop minority
businesses.
The administration claims that it will be saving ar... 阅读全帖
c***e
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看了http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/01/25/us/20090126-welfare-table.html给的数据,还真的用excel算了一下,发现各州welfare recipients比例的排名和food stamp recipients比例的排名大不相同。
welfare recipients, 2008头十名蓝州居多, 后十名红州居多,
rank state %
1 District of Columbia 4.37
2 California 3.27
3 Maine 2.59
4 Tennessee 2.28
5 Vermont 2.06
6 New York 2.02
7 Michigan 1.99
8 Rhode Island 1.89
9 Washington 1.86
10 New Mexico 1.86
41 North Caro... 阅读全帖
l****z
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几个liberal就是沙比,medicare当然是welfare的一种了.看wiki的图里面根本没有
welfare这个分类.是不是他们认为就没有welfare了?
P*********0
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Published: September 19, 2012
by Frank James
As Mitt Romney continues to deal with fallout from the secretly recorded "47
percent" fundraiser video that's gone viral, in which he dissed half the
nation, more attention is being given to another recording featuring another
Romney — his mother, Lenore.
President John F. Kennedy was in the White House in 1962 when the current
Republican presidential nominee's mother sat down for an interview to speak
on behalf of her husband, George, who was then ma... 阅读全帖
L*******e
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Should welfare recipients name and received funds be published? They got
money from the governments.
The salary of government employee is published on websites. You could check
every federal government employee (and every California government employee,
including University of California and California State University) to see
how much they got paid. To be transparent, governments publish their income
from governments, with working.
Why shouldn't governments publish each welfare recipient's inc... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - Octomom is charged with welfare fraud
Michael Becker
Well! I’m shocked!! OK, I’m not.
Could you believe it? Charged with welfare fraud. This loving mother of 14,
a wannabe porn star, welfare fraud?
What’s next? Maybe the President has lied to us once or twice?
OK, we’ve snarked this to death and we’ll stop. This actually IS a problem
, and we’re not talking about the welfare fraud chump change, and that’s
Octomom’s problem anyway.
We’re talking about a serious societal problem. The very fact that the
entertainment news junkies have ... 阅读全帖
T*********I
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GOSHEN, N.Y.-- More than 30 people have been arrested in connection with a
recent high profile mortgage and welfare fraud scheme, that stretched from
New York City to Orange County.
The district attorney hopes these arrests send a clear message, that Orange
County will not put up with anyone trying to scams taxpayers.
"This isn't chicken feed okay," said Carl DuBois, Orange County Sheriff.
Orange County is cracking down on anyone trying to cheat the system.
"This isn't $40, $400 or even $4,000. ... 阅读全帖
m***x
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楼主有可能把promote理解成了provide,像上面一位网友已经指出的。另外welfare的
确切意义也不局限于直接发给你拿到手的金钱福利,如粮食券。一个好政策,能促进你
的生意; 你的孩子,品学兼优,能不用顾虑自己的肤色种族,昂首挺胸进好大学;你全
家周末能开开心心出去野餐,不用担心坏人骚扰; 这些都是政府promote的welfare。
c******e
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左逼连此welfare非彼welfare都不懂。

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要我说有吃有喝却空虚无聊的日子,也算不得真正的welfare,能在工作中得到劳动者
的尊严与幸福,也应该是政府要promote的welfare
u***n
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correct!
It means welfare in general scope,
not the welfare system currently keeps parasites alive and breeds more of
them.
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - This is why welfare sucks
Posted by Tracy Coenen on March 2, 2010 · 1 Comment
There are many different types of welfare. There are straight-up handouts to
those who haven’t earned them. There are programs to bridge a gap and help
a family in dire need. There are things like unemployment, which people
somewhat earn while they work, and collect after they lose a job. There are
tax “credits” which are a fancy way of disguising welfare payments. Most
are bad. Some are even worse.
And this story on WalletPop.com about a man o
N********n
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来自主题: USANews版 - End of European Welfare (zz)
The welfare states of Europe that rose out of the ashes of the Second
World War are now facing destruction because of the sovereign debt crisis,
analysts say.
The troubles that began with the collapse of Greece and which now
threaten the euro spell the end for excessive and occasionally corrupt
welfare systems, they say.
The pronouncement from a highly regarded U.S. think tank reflected
popular opinion across northern European countries.
Uri Dadush, of the Carnegie Endowment's In
y****t
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life is good ... to be a parasite.
Times review finds that in more than half of the state's casinos and gaming
rooms, welfare recipients can get cash from state-issued EBT cards.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-welfare-casinos-20100624,0,6190326.story
l****z
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by n*****[email protected] (The blogprof)
Why be surprised when those that get other people's money simply piss it
away?
A WCVB Investigation found more than $2.3 million in Massachusetts welfare
money, meant to help the needy buy food, pay their rent and clothe their
children, has been spent in locations outside the state in a three-month
period, including pricey vacation destinations like Hawaii, Las Vegas,
Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.
http://www.breitbart.tv/mass-welfare-recipients-spent-m... 阅读全帖
y****t
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小左读的书还是太少...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870453500457534864
Lessons From the Swedish Welfare State
Americans are debating whether to substantially expand the size of their
government. As Swedish economists who live in the developed world's largest
welfare state, we urge our friends in the New World to look carefully before
they leap.
Fifty years ago, Sweden and America spent about the same on their government
, a bit under 30% of GDP. This is no longer true. In the years leading... 阅读全帖
l******a
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来自主题: USANews版 - Welfare Killed The Little Red Hen
Stupid Kennedy and many other damnocraps brought this
to destroy true democracy and run this country down.
This is sadly one costly lesson we've learned from the past.
Like many original thoughts on humanity, the idea of broad
welfare wasn't spawned to do harm. The problem is when
public noticed it's devastating effects, it's often too
late - to have found out that there is no such a thing
as a brake in place to avoid a national collapse.
Like many have said, there has to be ways to deal with
th... 阅读全帖
D*******o
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Please read the post more carefully before you reply, dude.
发信人: Peekaboo100 (Guess what), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: Over 100 Million Now Receiving Federal Welfare
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug 14 05:46:00 2012, 美东)
Social security and Medicare are not welfare, stupid. They are entitlement.
People paid over their prime years to get these benefits in return.
You cannot cut my benefits for which I already paid for. If you really want
to do it , please refund my money plus interest.
y****t
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why?
She refused to allow a welfare recipient to use his EBT card to buy a pack
of smokes.
http://nation.foxnews.com/welfare/2012/06/27/woman-fired-refusi
感谢党,感谢obama,ebt卡可以买香烟了.
k**o
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来自主题: USANews版 - Number of welfare recipient by state
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/01/25/us/20090126-welfa
吃welfare救济人口最多的州:
第一是CA(深蓝)
第二是NY(深蓝)
第三是PA(浅蓝)
第四是MI(浅蓝)
第五是OH(浅蓝)
Next time some one make up shit stat about red states having more welfare
recipients, refer them to this article.
k**o
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来自主题: USANews版 - Number of welfare recipient by state
here you go
福利人口,按人口比例:
第一:DC(深蓝)6.35%
第二:CA(深蓝)3.23%
第三:MA(深蓝)2.59%
第四:TN(浅红)2.26%
第五:VT(深蓝)2.06%
第六:NY(深蓝)2.00%
第七:MI(浅蓝)1.99%
第八:RI(深蓝)1.89%
第九:NM(浅蓝)1.84%
第十:WA(深蓝)1.83%
倒数的:
第一:WY(深红)0.11%
第二:ID(深红)0.14%
第三:GA(深红)0.39%
第四:LA(浅红)0.43%
第五:UT(深红)0.44%
第六:TX(浅红)0.45%
第七:FL(浅蓝)0.46%
第八:CO(浅蓝)0.48%
第九:IL(深蓝)0.49%
第十:OK(深红)0.50%
你把刚才那个链接数据copy paste到excel,然后加一列population数据,
再加一列formula welfare recipient/population就算出来了。这个数据
是NOT including food stamp。我不知道怎么搞including food stamp的
数据。可能得单独搞一个food sta... 阅读全帖
k**o
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来自主题: USANews版 - Number of welfare recipient by state
Working class people, not having to pay income tax, is
completely different from not working and being lazy and live on
welfare and foodstamps. These working class people still generates
wealth and contribute to society. Romney is talking about people
who pay no income tax AND obtain welfare from the government.
Though I agree his numbers are flawed, 47% is too high.
j*********d
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2012年,Defense 0.9万亿,welfare 0.45万亿:
http://www.usfederalbudget.us/federal_budget_detail_fy13rs12012
US Federal Government FY 13 Budget
Spending Estimates in $ trillion nom
FY 2012 FY 2013 FY 2014 FY 2015 FY 2016 FY 2017
[+] Defense 0.90 0.90 0.80 0.78 0.79 0.81
[+] Welfare 0.45 0.42 0.40 0.40 0.40 0.39
BTW:你千万别给我包子,吃了恶心。
k**o
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这个"welfare"是not include Medicaid,Medicaid是算在healthcare那一栏里面。
你再加上Medicaid看看呢?我估计不比Defense低。Medicaid也是一种welfare啊。
d****i
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来自主题: USANews版 - 哈哈,romney的爹吃过welfare
吃了Welfare后来自食其力了,这样的人,在困难的时候给他Welfare度过难关我想没有
什么人反对。
y****t
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please note this is excluding social security and medicare.
no jobs, no economy, only food stamps.
Total federal and state "welfare" spending topped $1 trillion last year,
marking a nearly 30 percent increase since the start of the Obama
administration -- according to a new congressional report which documented
spending across more than 80 benefit programs for low-income families.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/18/welfare-spending-top
l****z
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'Welfare Spending Equates to $168 Per Day for Every Household in Poverty'
by Daniel Halper
The amount of money spent on welfare programs equals, when converted to cash
payments, about "$168 per day for every household in poverty," the minority
side of the Senate Budget Committee finds. Here's a chart detailing the
committee's findings:
t**********3
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"The welfare state is not really about the welfare of the masses. It is
about the egos of the elites." - Dr. Thomas Sowell
Thomas Sowell的一针见血总能扒掉左轮最后一块遮丑布
H**s
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yahoonews 看到的,Center for Immigration Studies 这个机构怎么样?
严重怀疑这个survey的准确性。 竟然有72%的legal immigrant on welfare
http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/09/10/report-87-illegal-immigran
http://www.cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Househol
w*********r
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你接触的移民太少了。
Medicaid和Supplemental Security Income(SSI)也属于welfare。通过FAMILY移民来
的老人基本都会用的。中国老人基本上都会申请福利的。
低收入家庭领取FOOD STAMPS也是使用welfare。

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如果不明白政府的职能是什么,可以研究一下宪法。
According to the Constitution of the United States, the federal government
was established for six specific purposes. These purposes include unity,
justice, domestic tranquility, defense, promotion of the general welfare of
the citizens and securing liberty for all.
d**e
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政府最大的职能是provide security to its citizens. 其它都是公民自己可以做的
事情。welfares应该是私人提供。

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D*********1
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消除拿welfare的人群,更应该是政府职责
h***e
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这个要点赞。十个字十个字


: 消除拿welfare的人群,更应该是政府职责

m***x
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不要简单地把 promotion of the general welfare of the citizens 理解成发福利。
这句话正确的翻译大致是“促进公民的民生福祉”。为了达到这个目标,当然要给真正
的弱势群体发合理的福利,但更重要的是用好的政策引导社会产业的健康发展,让大多
数人能通过自己的勤奋努力过上好日子。

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这个智商啊。。。。。。promote welfare怎么promote???
一,提高生产力,老川正在做。
二,打击滥用福利,让真正需要福利的人得到更多福利,老川将要做。

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f****g
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http://www.breitbart.com/economics/2017/05/24/trump-budget-kills-affirmative-action-corporate-welfare-agency/
The Trump administration’s first budget would shutter the fifty year old
Minority Business Development Agency (MBDA).
The MBDA hands out grants and runs federally funded “management consulting
operations” around the country. It has long been targeted by conservatives
as a form of corporate welfare
j*********r
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Switzerland has banned citizenship bids to individuals who have lived in the
country on welfare during the past three years unless they pay back the
money that was given to them, according to Austrian newspaper Kronen Zeitung.
A previous law allowed asylum seekers and migrants to apply for citizenship
as long as they weren’t on state handouts at the time of their application.
http://americanmilitarynews.com/2018/01/switzerland-denies-citizenship-to-welfare-recipients-unless-they-pay-it-back/

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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: LiYaoshi (药师——泥腿子五毛一名), 信区: Military
标 题: 原来真有这种东西:FAMILY Welfare CAP POLICIES
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb 7 13:27:29 2018, 美东)
看来立法者 也不傻嘛
但现在只有少数(19个)州实施
http://www.ncsl.org/research/human-services/welfare-reform-family-cap-policies.aspx
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