z***e 发帖数: 5393 | 1 for backend, most people know more or less about db/php/whatever. and it's
easier for engineers to reinvent wheels or show visibility (e.g. moving data
from db A to db B and you claim the performance is improved by xxx --- if
not, u can claim it helps long term xxxx)
for mobile, it really demands experience, and few people will understand why
u do this/that. The problem is since u work with designers, it's hard for
you to gain credits. Also there are many granular works to do for mobile
than bac... 阅读全帖 |
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z*w 发帖数: 5 | 2 去年年底签了湾区的一家小公司做QA in automation。 当时没有别的offer compete,
所以工资被low balled。 而且平时因为release较多,要做很多的manual work。最近
向VP表达了想转成 backend engineer的想法,他很支持,1月份可以转,但表示工资和
职位是两码事。工资是明年三月份按照当前的performance定。所以当前工资被严重low
paid, 很可能换成backend engineer继续被low paid的。我们backend 的stack就是
J2EE, AWS。
最近walmart Ecommerce的HR联系我一个Senior SDET的职位,不知道了解这个公司/职
位的大牛能否介绍一下?和HM聊的很开心,很快就去on site,但是HR expect我onsite
当天就决定yes or no. walmart的待遇明显比现在的好很多。
大牛轻拍都是真的很迷茫,我是否应该继续待着小公司,但是能转成backend engineer
,还是去walmart ecommerce做SDET呢? |
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d****y 发帖数: 910 | 3 【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: deminy (deminy), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Looking for PHP Backend Developer
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 10 01:43:59 2015, 美东)
有合适的朋友请私信我。
http://hire.jobvite.com/CompanyJobs/Careers.aspx?k=Job&c=qF29Vf
PHP Backend Developer
Engineering | Burlingame, CA
CrowdStar is the global leader in the mobile and social gaming industry,
developing entertainment for young females around the world where they spend
over 25 million minutes per day within our games. With more than 250
... 阅读全帖 |
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h****e 发帖数: 928 | 4 就职业发展而言,在frontend和backend分工明显的公司,
backend技术上可以往architect的方向走,因为通常整个系统
都是要做backend的来设计。一般不太会给做frontend的这个
机会,frontend要再发展可能就得往management方向走。 |
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h*d 发帖数: 19309 | 5 你自己扯的你都不记得了? cql那货返回点数据也就罢了,处理数据还是算了。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/JobHunting/33063511.html
发信人: zhaoce (米高蜥蜴), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: Re: full stack track 和 backend track 哪个更有前途?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 1 07:59:32 2015, 美东)
如果是backend的话
java -> tomcat/jdbc/db(sql) -> spring/hibernate -> nosql/spark/flink/lucene
-> vert.x/netty/core java
差不多酱紫,虽然最后一步比倒数第二步数学要容易点,但是更迟出来
所以如果是学习的话,那就把最后两个颠倒一下
到了spark之后,就明显感觉数学要求陡然升高,高等数学就开始来了
第一步就是线性代数
一般的web也就是到tomcat这个level吧
很多full stack其实就是front end
无非php ->... 阅读全帖 |
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z****e 发帖数: 54598 | 6 【 以下文字转载自 Programming 讨论区 】
发信人: zhaoce (米高蜥蜴), 信区: Programming
标 题: 每次web泡沫破灭,都是我们backend大发展的开端
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 16 19:01:05 2015, 美东)
上次dotcom泡沫破灭之后,backend大发展
这次也一样,web公司在裁员
但是我知道不少公司都在找backend的程序猴
现在传统公司对于hadoop这些灰常有兴趣啊
是时候跳槽了,把小白鼠web公司积累下来的经验
带给传统的公司吧,当然我说的不是node和go这些
而是jvm based,是nosql比如c*,netty/vert.x
乃至quasar,hadoop,spark etc.
因为legacy code都是spring,hibernate,tomcat,sql |
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发帖数: 1 | 7 City: San Francisco
Salary: $80,000+/Year (Other package negotiable)
Work Experience: 5+ years
H1-B: Yes
Recruiting Company: Flyhigh Talent
Job Description
Our company is a tablet-first mobile games developer & publisher aimed at
creating fun, derivative and deeply engaging free-to-play games for the
masses. While optimized for tablet devices, each of our titles are also
designed to be playable across platform (mobile, web, client, smart tech) in
order to ensure global distribution. With all of ... 阅读全帖 |
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d****y 发帖数: 910 | 8 有合适的朋友请私信我。
http://hire.jobvite.com/CompanyJobs/Careers.aspx?k=Job&c=qF29Vf
PHP Backend Developer
Engineering | Burlingame, CA
CrowdStar is the global leader in the mobile and social gaming industry,
developing entertainment for young females around the world where they spend
over 25 million minutes per day within our games. With more than 250
million game installs, CrowdStar is home to some of the most popular, fun
and entertaining games including Covet Fashion, Mermaid World and Top Girl
on mo... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****r 发帖数: 43070 | 9 W家,工资给的巨高那个,最早的backend是boost的,现在看他们招人,全部都要做
Java backend的。
Y家,老牌互联网公司,最早是Perl,后来用C++,前几年开始全面导向Java。
P家,著名网上支付公司,一大堆C++的code,猴年马月的,复杂笨重之极,新人根本看
不明白,被CTO要求重新写,用Java,不知道现在折腾的如何了。
C++的programmer,确实机会越来越少,连backend都受不住,中间件前台更没戏。 |
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p*****2 发帖数: 21240 | 10
我想说的就是这个意思。我就是想知道有没有技术障碍使得非JVM语言不能做backend,
我可没认为Node一定适合做backend。JS语言本身有其不完善性,所以我们还需要
Clojure。但是有些backend的工作,我倒觉得不一定非要JVM才行。 |
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w*****s 发帖数: 122 | 11 [May 10, 2000] FOT2PDF: A PDF Backend for DSSSL-FlowObjectTrees. Christof Drescher (Pro
Image GbR) has posted an announcment to the DSSSL-List for a first beta release of a FOT2PDF
formatting backend to Jade/OpenJade. The package [1.00 beta1] is available for download. "The PDF
Backend can be used free of charge for non-commercial use to produce PDF files from SGML sources.
This distribution includes the following: (1) the fot2pdf-formatter as JAVA executable in fot2pdf; (2) an |
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p*****2 发帖数: 21240 | 12
不一定是kernel。我不懂乱说。我理解后端可以分很多层,你上边说的是最上层也是最
无聊的。其实下边很多很有意思的技术和很多有挑战性的问题。比如Google search的
backend,Dropbox的backend。 |
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A*****i 发帖数: 3587 | 13 DP只是我举得一个例子
backend能问的问题广度远大于frontend
随便一个backend问题,从db设计到scalable,和distributed system,再加个
concurrency处理,如果REST相关,如何cache,如何pagination,如何authentication
都能问出十几个扩展问题,一个简单问题就能把人考死
frondend毕竟还是考死记硬背的多一些,顶多加点儿算法,而且算法还是99%以上根本
不会碰到的情况。 |
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Z**********4 发帖数: 528 | 14 做了两年frontend 完全不同意你的看法。
frontend才是不需要考虑efficiency的地方。backend的才是很重要吧,不然你的app的
速度没有人愿意接受。
另外你做frontend也不一定就是business focus。看公司。比如很多financial的公司
的business logic有很多专门的人员handle应该engineer没有这么多时间懂太多的
finance。学不到什么太多。
我觉得做frontend跟backend的人的思维方式不一样。完全两个track。
efficiency |
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n*******e 发帖数: 137 | 15 【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: newjackie (pp), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Google 内推: Big Data Backend processing engineer
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb 4 12:32:16 2015, 美东)
这个position 有多个opening。
下面是job description. 有些tool是公司内部用的,所以没用过也没关系。主要是对
big data, hadoop, map reduce, data warehouse比较熟就好了。有兴趣,请站内联系。
The Analytics Backend team has a whole bunch of new exciting efforts that we
are hiring for. These projects span a wide range of exciting areas
including large scale (~100 Petabytes) data processing,... 阅读全帖 |
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d****o 发帖数: 22 | 16 location is in bay area. company is boston consulting group http://bcgdv.com
* senior android developer, 3+ years experience,published app
* Junior android developer, some experience, created some small apps
* senior ios developer, 3+ years experience, published app
* Junior ios developer, some experience, created some small apps with
objective-c
* senior backend java developer, 5+ years experience, spring framework, web
service framework
* Junior backend java developer, some java experience |
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z***e 发帖数: 5393 | 17 【 以下文字转载自 Returnee 讨论区 】
发信人: zlike (最终幻想), 信区: Returnee
标 题: 北京千万级投资创业团队招backend team leader
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jun 1 05:25:26 2015, 美东)
帝都,某集团投资千万的某创业型团队(独立公司,集团资金支持)招backend team
leader,待遇上,能保证拿到手的在25k/月基准值上,配期权,觉得月薪要求更高的,
可以根据实际能力商谈。
团队方向:定位于艺术教育类的移动App和web开发。目前产品尚处于初版开发阶段,一
切都有很多发展空间。
要求:2年以上后端开发经验,熟悉node.js或者其他server端script语言,对mongodb/
redis/mysql等常见数据存储有较多了解
职责:初期搭建产品后端框架,同时建立团队并管理
有意者私信,或者email: [email protected]
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z****e 发帖数: 54598 | 18 如果是backend的话
java -> tomcat/jdbc/db(sql) -> spring/hibernate -> nosql/spark/flink/lucene
-> vert.x/netty/core java
差不多酱紫,虽然最后一步比倒数第二步数学要容易点,但是更迟出来
所以如果是学习的话,那就把最后两个颠倒一下
到了spark之后,就明显感觉数学要求陡然升高,高等数学就开始来了
第一步就是线性代数
一般的web也就是到tomcat这个level吧
很多full stack其实就是front end
无非php -> ror -> node酱紫一路过来
除了web还是web,无非换个写法而已,没啥大区别
真的full stack应该从swift -> java,像搞tableau/palantir一样搞法
那才叫真正的full stack,如果搞这种的话,java就直接跳到最后一步了
至少上netty了,现在可以上vert.x
netty作者是韩国人,也是游戏爱好者,本来初衷就是给网游用的
netty那几个core developers,基本上都在各个大公司做顾问... 阅读全帖 |
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z****e 发帖数: 54598 | 19
full stack一般都默认是front end
懂backend的一般都不愿意强调自己懂html, css, js这些东西
因为这些工作本质上不过是ui
所以很多人为了不被误认为是front end
都不说自己是full stack
真要full stack,几乎每一个backend都是full stack
谁没写过点js呢? |
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b**********5 发帖数: 7881 | 20 can u speak in english? don't really know what u mean by all these 线性空间.
..
linear algebra?? statistics?
so let me get this straight... most people are arguing that a person cannot
be an expert on frontend and backend...
but u are saying u are an expert on statistics and backend??!!
so are u implying that frontend is more difficult than statistics??!!
btw, who equates ML with statistics?? |
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b**********5 发帖数: 7881 | 21 u are a dumb asshole who thinks decision tree has nothing to do with ML...
btw, my point is that if u argue and say a person cannot be an expert on
both backend and front end, but at the same time, u are pretending to be an
expert on both ML and backend... u really need to check urself...
btw, nosql has nothing to do with ML, but decision tree is one major part of
ML...
now go fuck switjser... u 2 dumb ignorant assholes really need to get
together.. |
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a*******a 发帖数: 383 | 22 问个假设问题,对于new grad来说,如果有ios或android和backend(business logic
, distributed system)两个方向可选,哪个长远发展方向更好点?
我个人觉得貌似backend更长远点,因为以后ios说不定哪天就被替换掉了,而
distributed这种经验是能慢慢积累的。
最近也在做swift的东西,觉得也就是手熟,没太大门槛,所以也不知道怎样长远地给
自己积累优势。也可能是我level不到
各位说说看法? |
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g*******i 发帖数: 104 | 23 about Yammer: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/JobHunting/32868293.html
For listing of Senior Infra Engineer and Android Engineer see https://
careers.microsoft.com/search.aspx
The backend opening is not listed but we do have an opening for a senior
backend engineer position, preferably have experience in both Ruby on Rails
and Java. |
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o********r 发帖数: 79 | 24 UberPOOL是Uber的拼车产品 https://get.uber.com/cl/uberpool/,虽然是backend
team, 但涉及的项目都是解决一些比较有意思的算法问题,比如: dynamic pricing,
smart dispatch, prediction. 会用到一些machine learning和optimization, 和
data打交道比较多,编程语言node, go, python, java都会用到一些。组里的氛围比较
好,工作强度也不像传说中的那么大。
组里今年开始发展变快,现在希望在三番多招收一些有经验的backend engineer,如果
感兴趣请站内把linkedin profile发给我就可以了,我会代为推荐或者转给专门的
recruiter. 谢谢。 |
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x******u 发帖数: 31 | 25 请教版上的前辈,马工的职业发展,是做mobile app,frontend web UI,还是backend
对未来发展比较好。
现在的情况是做了两年mobile development,不知道是不是尽早试一下别的领域。
没有相关backend的经验,又不是fresh grad,只靠刷题,general hiring的话有戏吗?
谢谢了。 |
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m*****u 发帖数: 1342 | 26 Have done all 3. This still depends on your personal interest/talent, for
instance, if you are good at the design or good at manipulate large dataset
(performance), etc.
I personally feel backend dev is more interesting and rewarding...
backend
吗? |
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l********e 发帖数: 103 | 27 大家觉得
backend vs infrastructure 哪个更有前途?
现在在做infra
在想 要不要赚到backend上去 |
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l********e 发帖数: 103 | 28 为什么backend好跳槽啊?
backend比较好跳槽,infra 干活周期长压力小。 |
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m**********s 发帖数: 7 | 29 Are you a rockstar? Do you hack around on your home Linux server? Did you
learn Ruby or Python just for
fun? Do you enjoy learning about and implementing the latest Internet
engineering technologies? Do you
think it would be cool if your cutting-edge work had an immediate impact on
millions of people across the
world? If yes, then we look forward to hearing from you.
We are seeking a backend software engineer to join our team, starting
immediately. Our team is small but
very experienced and capa... 阅读全帖 |
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l***d 发帖数: 396 | 30 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: longtian (有人的地方,就有江湖), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 忽然觉得front end比backend更有前途
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 31 18:48:59 2014, 美东)
backend都是苦逼的活,随便来个人对付一下就完事了,没人管什么design,efficiency
,只要能把基本功能做出来就行。front end比较business focus,打交道的人都是高层
,提升的机会大很多。 |
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j****n 发帖数: 4358 | 31 Need experienced PHP backend developers who can build web services for our
next generation analytics platform. They will be working closely with a
stellar team of PHP developers, Oracle experts and web engineers in an agile
development environment.
* Expert-level PHP experience in building RESTful web services required.
* Experience working on a LAMP stack is a must.
* Extensive experience developing low latency, scalable backend components
interfacing with Oracle database required.
* Deep under... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******7 发帖数: 188 | 32 MVC中的frontend对应的是client side 吗?
backend对应的是Server Side吗?
在stackoverflow提到了area的概念,是否Admin和Member都是属于backend(server
side)? 而site则是属于frontside (client side)?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11923149/asp-mvc-front-end-b
而在有的MVC的书里,又感觉M(MODEL)和C(Controller)是Server side,View则是
Client side,概念很混乱?希望大牛可以指点迷津!!! |
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s***o 发帖数: 2191 | 33 "Backend" is the place where you take care of the business logic and
infrastructure including data access, authentication, etc. They are usually
built as separate modules from your mvc Web project. (server side)
The functionalities of the "backend" are usually available through various "
services". (server side)
"Fontend" is more about UI, about how you present information to end users,
e.g., HTML markup (in the "view"s), CSS, JS modules related to the UI logic,
etc. (client side)
Consider a con... 阅读全帖 |
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j********x 发帖数: 2330 | 34 这个东西写backend取代一些java的市场还是有希望的
同是GC语言
上手极其容易 没有任何fancy的特性 及其土鳖
并行比较方便
这种语言简直就是给cloud时代的backend设计的
最重要的是经受了G家大规模开发的考验 本身的成色还是值得信赖 |
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t*****n 发帖数: 4908 | 35 走backend常在这里灌水。他们只知道backend,其他都不知道,也不想知道。 |
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z****e 发帖数: 54598 | 36 你看到的backend在真正backend programmers看来都是front end |
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z***e 发帖数: 5393 | 37 【 以下文字转载自 Returnee 讨论区 】
发信人: zlike (最终幻想), 信区: Returnee
标 题: 北京千万级投资创业团队招backend team leader
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jun 1 05:25:26 2015, 美东)
帝都,某集团投资千万的某创业型团队(独立公司,集团资金支持)招backend team
leader,待遇上,能保证拿到手的在25k/月基准值上,配期权,觉得月薪要求更高的,
可以根据实际能力商谈。
团队方向:定位于艺术教育类的移动App和web开发。目前产品尚处于初版开发阶段,一
切都有很多发展空间。
要求:2年以上后端开发经验,熟悉node.js或者其他server端script语言,对mongodb/
redis/mysql等常见数据存储有较多了解
职责:初期搭建产品后端框架,同时建立团队并管理
有意者私信,或者email: [email protected]
/* */ |
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n*********u 发帖数: 1030 | 38 应该写script什么的。
现在front end跟写backend差不多了,framework上去后就是在写oop大程序,backend
主要就是写个api提供model的curd和检查auth的权限了。
感觉现在讨论前端后端也没意思了。
个人感觉要么算法类,要么要能快速把简单的东西很好的做出来。 |
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z****e 发帖数: 54598 | 39 上次dotcom泡沫破灭之后,backend大发展
这次也一样,web公司在裁员
但是我知道不少公司都在找backend的程序猴
现在传统公司对于hadoop这些灰常有兴趣啊
是时候跳槽了,把小白鼠web公司积累下来的经验
带给传统的公司吧,当然我说的不是node和go这些
而是jvm based,是nosql比如c*,netty/vert.x
乃至quasar,hadoop,spark etc.
因为legacy code都是spring,hibernate,tomcat,sql |
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f**********o 发帖数: 228 | 40 frontend has more openings, but easier to offshore
backend is the opposite
front end offers a better path if you want to move to application/marketing
later
i say front end for sure... you only need some exposure to backend stuff |
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n*******e 发帖数: 137 | 41 这个position 有多个opening。
下面是job description. 有些tool是公司内部用的,所以没用过也没关系。主要是对
big data, hadoop, map reduce, data warehouse比较熟就好了。有兴趣,请站内联系。
The Analytics Backend team has a whole bunch of new exciting efforts that we
are hiring for. These projects span a wide range of exciting areas
including large scale (~100 Petabytes) data processing, querying (100M+
queries/day), indexing and serving. You will get the chance to work with a
really fun team of engineers, get exposure to lots of senior engineers, hav... 阅读全帖 |
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m*******i 发帖数: 22 | 42 Hi,
My company is hiring. Two positions are avail.
Location: San francisco
Experience: 2~3 years
Title: Senior/Lead Frontend Engineer
Requirements:
html, css, javascript, php
Location: San francisco
Experience: 2~3 years
Title: Senior Backend Engineer
Requirements:
LAMP stack
The company has around 200 employees, still a startup company
but financially healthy as what I can tell. A good english
communication skill is required. The company will sponsor H-1B
for highly qualified candidates. The sa... 阅读全帖 |
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y*******g 发帖数: 6599 | 43 主要写ios, android, 偶尔写一写mobile web. 偶尔写一写 backend 的junior mobile
developer认为计划没什么用
5年前根本就没现在所谓的mobile developer。
web, server用的东西也区别很大。 |
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n****o 发帖数: 399 | 45 做frontend的总是比做backend的多吧 |
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b********7 发帖数: 717 | 46 我front and backend都做,前台偏设计要会Adobe那一套,后台一般地方都是php/
MySQL .好像.net and java工资会高很多。 |
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J****R 发帖数: 373 | 47 看到不少做backend的职位,都是要求java+python的experience.
版上哪位是做这个的?给说说这种职位,分别用java和python做什么呢? |
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j**w 发帖数: 382 | 48 Backend Data Engineers intern
Introduction: About Data at Yahoo
Yahoo generates billions of transactions every day and it is critical to
collect, process, manage and aggregate data in a form that can provide
timely and accurate insights to executives, sales, product managers and
content creators on all aspects of user interaction.
The Data Group at Yahoo is responsible for building scalable and highly
distributed systems to support mission critical continuously running ETL
processes that collect... 阅读全帖 |
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s******4 发帖数: 24 | 49 公司在很快地scale, 所以需要找一些做web service backend的人。我们主要是用java
做数据的处理。就是很流行的hadoop, nosql之类的。Senior和entry level的职位都有
。如果有兴趣可以站内信或者邮箱联系我,我帮忙内推。公司就在南湾。
可以发到我邮箱 s******[email protected] |
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s******4 发帖数: 24 | 50 公司在很快地scale, 所以需要找一些做web service backend的人。我们主要是用java
做数据的处理。就是很流行的hadoop, nosql之类的。Senior和entry level的职位都有
。如果有兴趣可以站内信或者邮箱联系我,我帮忙内推。公司就在南湾。
可以发到我邮箱 s********[email protected] ( 之前写的是s******[email protected],好像没收
到邮件 ) |
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